RayR
4 years ago

Let's not forget rich enough to afford the EV purchase price, in order to qualify for the whopping $7.5k tax credit, regardless of one's mental capacity

Sunoverbeach wrote:



Using a tax credit or a direct subsidy is a form of socioeconomic control to try to manipulate the consumer into buying what the regime wants them to buy. It will be advertised under the pretense of saving the environment and fighting climate change
It's naturally and inherently anti-capitalistic.
Stogie1020
4 years ago

Looks like tomorrow Biden will sign off an restoring the EV tax credit.

That’s $7,500 to those smart enough to buy one of the few electric vehicles that will actually qualify.




And I look back at this tread and count the names that won’t qualify - because of personal issues….

Brewha wrote:



Let me fill in those blanks for you....


EDIT: Looks like HD already covered this.
HockeyDad
4 years ago

Using a tax credit or a direct subsidy is a form of socioeconomic control to try to manipulate the consumer into buying what the regime wants them to buy. It will be advertised under the pretense of saving the environment and fighting climate change
It's naturally and inherently anti-capitalistic.

RayR wrote:



It’s just a little nudge!
BuckyB93
4 years ago
"The most immediate effect of the Inflation Reduction Act would be a ban on tax credits for vehicles assembled outside North America. That would mean about 70% of the 72 current EV and plug-in hybrids on the U.S. market would no longer be eligible, said the Alliance for Automotive Innovation, which warned the change 'will surprise and disappoint customers in the market for a new vehicle' and 'jeopardize' EV sales goals."

"New restrictions on battery sourcing and critical minerals, along with price caps and income caps, take effect on Jan. 1, which will potentially make all current EVs ineligible for the full $7,500 credit."


"U.S. electric vehicle market leader Tesla and General Motors Co (GM.N) already sell their EVs without a federal tax credit, because they hit the 200,000 vehicle cap under the current law.

Tesla and GM may not become eligible to offer tax credits under the new law until Jan. 1. And even then, it is not clear which models - if any - will get the full $7,500 by meeting requirements that 40% of battery minerals come only from North America, or countries with which the United States has free trade agreements."


https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/automakers-scramble-decode-new-us-ev-tax-credits-2022-08-12/ [/color]

In summary...
- 70% of the current EV models are ineligible since they don't meet the domestic assembly requirements.
- Potentially all current EV will be ineligible for the full credit based on the sources of materials used.
- Industry EV leaders like GM and Tesla are ineligible since they already sell too many EV's.

So 7 out of the possible 10 models that you might want to buy are out of the picture. Potentially all could be out of the picture because they don't use the government's qualified materials. If you want one for the credit, you have to buy one from a company that is lower on the totem pole for industry.
RayR
4 years ago
Somebody's delusional demented tone-deaf president...

Joe Biden as He Signs Massive Spending Bill that Will Raise Taxes on Middle Class: “The American People Have Won, and Special Interests Lost” (VIDEO)

By Cristina Laila
Published August 16, 2022 at 3:54pm


Joe Biden on Tuesday returned to the White House from his South Carolina beach vacation to sign his massive spending bill that will raise taxes on the middle class and make inflation worse.

Biden signed the ‘Inflation Reduction Act’ on Tuesday and mumbled through remarks before heading back to Delaware for another vacation.

“With this law, the American people won and the special interests lost,” Biden said claiming the bill is “one of the most significant laws in our history.”

Biden also falsely claimed “no one earning less than $400,000/year will pay a penny more in federal taxes.”

More...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/joe-biden-signs-massive-spending-bill-will-raise-taxes-middle-class-american-people-won-special-interests-lost-video/ 

Sunoverbeach
4 years ago
I threw a ball for my dog yesterday. It might seem a little extravagant, but it was her birthday and she looks cute in a gown
bgz
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4 years ago
RayRay got BDS again... it's worse than his Trump Nuts Dangling Syndrome.
Brewha
4 years ago

"The most immediate effect of the Inflation Reduction Act would be a ban on tax credits for vehicles assembled outside North America. That would mean about 70% of the 72 current EV and plug-in hybrids on the U.S. market would no longer be eligible, said the Alliance for Automotive Innovation, which warned the change 'will surprise and disappoint customers in the market for a new vehicle' and 'jeopardize' EV sales goals."

"New restrictions on battery sourcing and critical minerals, along with price caps and income caps, take effect on Jan. 1, which will potentially make all current EVs ineligible for the full $7,500 credit."


"U.S. electric vehicle market leader Tesla and General Motors Co (GM.N) already sell their EVs without a federal tax credit, because they hit the 200,000 vehicle cap under the current law.

Tesla and GM may not become eligible to offer tax credits under the new law until Jan. 1. And even then, it is not clear which models - if any - will get the full $7,500 by meeting requirements that 40% of battery minerals come only from North America, or countries with which the United States has free trade agreements."


https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/automakers-scramble-decode-new-us-ev-tax-credits-2022-08-12/ [/color]

In summary...
- 70% of the current EV models are ineligible since they don't meet the domestic assembly requirements.
- Potentially all current EV will be ineligible for the full credit based on the sources of materials used.
- Industry EV leaders like GM and Tesla are ineligible since they already sell too many EV's.

So 7 out of the possible 10 models that you might want to buy are out of the picture. Potentially all could be out of the picture because they don't use the government's qualified materials. If you want one for the credit, you have to buy one from a company that is lower on the totem pole for industry.

BuckyB93 wrote:



So, as it appears today. I will be getting a $7,500 tax back credit on the Tesla a bought this year.

Tesla - the most American made car on the planet.

Now get this, the dual motor version cost me less than the $55k limit. despite the fact that the price was over $55k when I took delivery. Oh, and they are off menu until 2023 due to availability.

If you want in, the base model 3 will get the credit. Or go ultra cheap and get a Chevy Bole and the credit. Not sure if Ford and GM are even taking orders right now - Loosers!

Charge at home for less than $1 per gallon.



And before you whine about EV’s - my Model 3 will the sh1t out of your M powered BMW POS.
Sunoverbeach
4 years ago
A) *Losers - nit picky but I feel your post warrants it

B) does it not say "Tesla and GM may not become eligible to offer tax credits under the new law until Jan 1st" or am I tripping?

C) If I could blow $55k on a ride, I'd have my GT350 already
Brewha
4 years ago

A) *Losers - nit picky but I feel your post warrants it

B) does it not say "Tesla and GM may not become eligible to offer tax credits under the new law until Jan 1st" or am I tripping?

C) If I could blow $55k on a ride, I'd have my GT350 already

Sunoverbeach wrote:



A) “they will pay for their lack of vision”

B) We will see when the law is finalized. But early on, it looks good for Brewha!

C) A donut machine? right, I had one of those. More than one in fact. Mustang GT, 88 Vett with a manual trans, etc. I get it. Drive a 350-450 HP AWD electric before you decide. One peddle driving. Max torque at all speeds. You never saw the likes…



So for $47k, less $7,500 rebate ($39,500), the base Model 3 would surprise you.
the iPhone of cars.
Give it a look before you scoff.



Did I mention it drives itself?
Sunoverbeach
4 years ago
I saw Terminator. I don't get into the self drive thing. I understand all the torque, speed, etc., but I'm aiming for a childhood dream here, and the E-Mach is an abomination of the Mustang badge. Not because it's an EV, but because it's an SUV
Brewha
4 years ago

I saw Terminator. I don't get into the self drive thing. I understand all the torque, speed, etc., but I'm aiming for a childhood dream here, and the E-Mach is an abomination of the Mustang badge. Not because it's an EV, but because it's an SUV

Sunoverbeach wrote:


True enough.

Buddy of mine has a GT350 Heritage edition. White with blue stripes and a manual trans. Beautiful car. Not as tractable as some. Hence Donut Machine. A used Vett is often a great value - better car for all things about going fast.

No real yard stick here. Some friends think a Rubicon is the best thing ever.

Peeps is different.
MACS
4 years ago
My new neighbor has a white with blue stripes GT500... with a very loud exhaust.

Love the car, but I bet in a few weeks of living 2 houses down I'm gonna hate it.
Sunoverbeach
4 years ago
Tis a glorious noise! Bask in it

Unless he did the resonator delete. Then he's just inconsiderate
bgz
  • bgz
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4 years ago
I like my car, it's fast enough.

Pi$$es of the neighbors, which is a bonus...

Well, most my neighbors have equally loud big azz v8s, so I guess that's a wash.

I can beat them all in a race though, muhahahahaha.
deadeyedick
4 years ago

My new neighbor has a white with blue stripes GT500... with a very loud exhaust.

Love the car, but I bet in a few weeks of living 2 houses down I'm gonna hate it.

MACS wrote:



Meh, all the newer cars have an exhaust that sounds like a can of marbles compared to the older big blocks rumble.
bgz
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4 years ago
Well, mine is a 392... it's got a nice natural rumble, no noise effects required.
RayR
4 years ago

Well, mine is a 392... it's got a nice natural rumble, no noise effects required.

bgz wrote:



Your car will be canceled under the expanded arbitrary authoritarian powers given to the EPA under the Inflation Reduction Act.
Elections have consequences.
Say your final goodbyes. 😢

Or pray the Republicans trounce the Demonrats in the midterms and get the balls to repeal this heinous act.
Ram27
4 years ago
5 NEIN for Bucko [ram27bat]
Brewha
4 years ago

Well, mine is a 392... it's got a nice natural rumble, no noise effects required.

bgz wrote:


Mine has a 3" speaker under the nose.....








So this is EV shame.
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