Gene363
3 years ago
Bill Barr Rips Trump Indictment, Calls It A “Disgrace” And “Abuse” Of Legal System

https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/bill-barr-trump-indictment-disgrace-paub/?utm_source=papa&utm_medium=twitter 

Bill Barr, the former United States attorney general, slammed Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg for leading the indictment of former President Donald Trump. On Thursday, the Manhattan grand jury voted to indict the former president.

Trump is reported to be facing 34 different counts related to business fraud.

On Friday, speaking with the former assistant US attorney of the Southern District of New York, Andrew McCarthy, Barr described the charges as a “political hit job.”

“It’s the archetypal abuse of the prosecutorial function to engage in a political hit job, and it’s a disgrace.”

“And legally, I think … from what I understand, it’s a pathetically weak case,” the former US attorney general added.

The case is “the epitome of the abuse of prosecutorial power to bring a case that would not be brought against anyone else. They are going after the man, not a crime. And the legal theory, frankly, is pathetically weak,” Barr contested.

It is reported the former president will appear in court on Tuesday, April 4th, at 2:15 PM EST. Trump refused a virtual appearance, the Guardian reported.

“Trump’s increasing insistence that he wants to be handcuffed behind his back for a perp walk appears to come from various motivations, including that he wants to project defiance in the face of what he sees as an unfair prosecution and that it would galvanize his base for his 2024 presidential campaign.”




Brewha
3 years ago

Politicians should be held to a higher, not lower standard. They are Leaders in our country in name only.

8trackdisco wrote:


Interesting that the MAGA crowd as condemned these charges - even though they are unknown charges.

All we have is a rumor of 34 counts of fraud (hfs - 34 counts??), but the tacked is that any accusations is an “abuse of power”. So for MAGA, there seems to be no standard of justice where Trump is concerned.

Give him his day in court just like the rest of us. What’s the bfd?
rfenst
3 years ago

Interesting that the MAGA crowd as condemned these charges - even though they are unknown charges.

All we have is a rumor of 34 counts of fraud (hfs - 34 counts??), but the tacked is that any accusations is an “abuse of power”. So for MAGA, there seems to be no standard of justice where Trump is concerned.

Give him his day in court just like the rest of us. What’s the bfd?

Brewha wrote:


If Nixon hadn't resigned, he would have been charged criminally after being impeached.
Agnew withdrew due to criminal allegations.
Whistlebritches
3 years ago



What’s the bfd?

Brewha wrote:



The "Big Guy" and the rest of the Biden Crime Family.Questionable business practices and receiving millions of dollars in unexplainable payments from our enemies under the table.Brew does the Biden thing even cross your mind or are you more in the Manhattan DA's mindset.................anything be it true or not to bring Trump down.After all the past untruthful allegations ,the "Russian Collusion" that libs bought into hook,line and sinker rises to the top of my list.Does the truth even matter to you?It damn well does to me.........if the charges against Trump prove out I'm good with that but since 2016 the left has not given me one reason to believe anything they say.
8trackdisco
3 years ago

If Nixon hadn't resigned, he would have been charged criminally after being impeached.
Agnew withdrew due to criminal allegations.

rfenst wrote:



Don't know if Nixon or Agnew every had any relationship with a porn star or ever bragged about grabbing women by the puzsszy .

Then again, grabbing women by the puzsszy does play well to his base. Getting arrested for paying puzsszy to shut up is more (pardon the upcoming pun) the kind of red meat his base craves.

All he needs is a rape charge and he ill ensure he becomes Emperor of America with 45% of the popular vote.
8trackdisco
3 years ago

The "Big Guy" and the rest of the Biden Crime Family.Questionable business practices and receiving millions of dollars in unexplainable payments from our enemies under the table.Brew does the Biden thing even cross your mind or are you more in the Manhattan DA's mindset.................anything be it true or not to bring Trump down.After all the past untruthful allegations ,the "Russian Collusion" that libs bought into hook,line and sinker rises to the top of my list.Does the truth even matter to you?It damn well does to me.........if the charges against Trump prove out I'm good with that but since 2016 the left has not given me one reason to believe anything they say.

Whistlebritches wrote:



The whole Yea-butt, the other side's criminal is worse than my criminal is tired and old.

If you had a 250 pound wife, would the neighbor with the 251 pound wife be the fat one?
rfenst
3 years ago

The "Big Guy" and the rest of the Biden Crime Family.Questionable business practices and receiving millions of dollars in unexplainable payments from our enemies under the table.Brew does the Biden thing even cross your mind or are you more in the Manhattan DA's mindset.................anything be it true or not to bring Trump down.After all the past untruthful allegations ,the "Russian Collusion" that libs bought into hook,line and sinker rises to the top of my list.Does the truth even matter to you?It damn well does to me.........if the charges against Trump prove out I'm good with that but since 2016 the left has not given me one reason to believe anything they say.

Whistlebritches wrote:


Here is this "liberal's" opinion:

If Trump is guilty, charge him and convict him like everyone else.

If Biden(s) is/are guilty, charge them and convict them like everybody else.

Presuming for the sake of argument both are convicted, both Presidents jail potential should be given deference to the nature of the crime(s) convicted of; their propensity to reoffend, etc., etc., just like everyone else- with due consideration of the fact they are/were President.

If Hunter is guilty, throw him in jail. But, I doubt that will happen soon and his father will probably commute his sentence or pardon him at the endo of his presidency.

The bell will toll on all of them.

There is nothing to rejoice about here. [whip]
rfenst
3 years ago

Don't know if Nixon or Agnew every had any relationship with a porn star or ever bragged about grabbing women by the puzsszy .

Then again, grabbing women by the puzsszy does play well to his base. Getting arrested for paying puzsszy to shut up is more (pardon the upcoming pun) the kind of red meat his base craves.

All he needs is a rape charge and he ill ensure he becomes Emperor of America with 45% of the popular vote.

8trackdisco wrote:


Forget about Stormy until the charges are opened. She did not even testify.

My guess is that this will be heavily weighted towards repeated bank, business and tax fraud." Stormy charges would really be predominantly "throw away charges."

Two or three years back, I C&P'd a long article disusing the documents supporting allegations about Trump- solely based on bank records and taxes filed and released.

I'll look for it. Long read, but it is all based on the documents described in the article the NYT acquired and claimed to poses.
Whistlebritches
3 years ago

The whole Yea-butt, the other side's criminal is worse than my criminal is tired and old.

If you had a 250 pound wife, would the neighbor with the 251 pound wife be the fat one?

8trackdisco wrote:



Not what I said........we have a sitting president who acted as a foreign agent ,tons of evidence to support this allegation and nothing is happening vs a former president who paid a porn star to keep her mouth shut about a sexual encounter.Plus rumor has it that according to what your definition of "IS" is this wasn't even sex.
Brewha
3 years ago

The "Big Guy" and the rest of the Biden Crime Family.Questionable business practices and receiving millions of dollars in unexplainable payments from our enemies under the table.Brew does the Biden thing even cross your mind or are you more in the Manhattan DA's mindset.................anything be it true or not to bring Trump down.After all the past untruthful allegations ,the "Russian Collusion" that libs bought into hook,line and sinker rises to the top of my list.Does the truth even matter to you?It damn well does to me.........if the charges against Trump prove out I'm good with that but since 2016 the left has not given me one reason to believe anything they say.

Whistlebritches wrote:


The Bidens may be as guilty and nefarious as can be.
Trump may be as innocent as an alter boy.

They both deserve due process, and while we have seen that impeachment at the federal level is more political than anything else, our subject here is about state charges. I hope this is and will be about the laws of the State of New York. And justice should be blind - whomever stands accused.

Yes, the “truth” matters to me. But we are talking about the law - which in an entirely different book.
rfenst
3 years ago

The Bidens may be as guilty and nefarious as can be.
Trump may be as innocent as an alter boy.

They both deserve due process, and while we have seen that impeachment at the federal level is more political than anything else, our subject here is about state charges. I hope this is and will be about the laws of the State of New York. And justice should be blind - whomever stands accused.

Yes, the “truth” matters to me. But we are talking about the law - which in an entirely different book.

Brewha wrote:


Remember that the "state" gets due process too against everyone/anyone.
frankj1
3 years ago

This angers the rural proles bigly.

It's such a strange world we live in...

The people who support Trump are largely anti mrna vax, yet he was the one that ok'd and pushed the vax, along with the govt tyranny, when he was CEO of the United States Corporation. They love him though.

On the flip side of the coin is the Branch Covidians. They can't get boosted enough, but they hate Trump. Trump hooked yall up with the tyranny that you need, why put him in prison now?

I dont want to church this up anymore than I have to, so I'll just say 98.2 percent of you guys are fooking idiots.


Hope you all have a handmade premium spring--get out and enjoy the nice weather.


Exiting Frank's grid in 3, 2, 1...............................................................................................





















I blame TW

RobertHively wrote:



I forgot about the grid thing.

Nice!
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11937021/Donald-Trumps-campaign-fundraising-soared-8million-indictment.html [/i][/color]
RayR
3 years ago
While the commie DA plays games targeting political opponents in the banana republic of NY...

Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg cuts career criminal a sweetheart deal while busy prosecuting Trump

By Joe Marino and Jorge Fitz-Gibbon
April 4, 2023

Controversial Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg is lavishly spending tax dollars to prosecute former President Donald Trump on what critics call politically motivated charges — while giving a career criminal a measly $1 bail.

Rodney Johnson, 53, who has nearly 90 busts on his rap sheet and two state prison stints under his belt, had his felony robbery charges knocked down to slap-on-the-wrist misdemeanors by Bragg’s office last week, law enforcement sources told The Post.

Johnson skipped out on a court-ordered intervention program three times on a 2021 felony robbery case.

But the criminal was handed just $1 bail on the latest charges, records show. It wasn’t clear on Tuesday whether the suspect had made bail.

More...

https://nypost.com/2023/04/04/bragg-prosecuting-trump-while-cutting-a-real-criminal-a-huge-break/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly&utm_content=Metro%20Audience&utm_campaign=2853909 





rfenst
3 years ago
A bunch of allegations tied together about a scheme of falsifying business records in concealment from the people of New York- alleging payments to women were illegal and/or were made illlegal by preventing voters to have important election-related information?

I only skimmed it. I don't want to read it right now.

Anyone read the word "tax" in the Indictment?
rfenst
3 years ago
Looking for typed transcript or full voice recording of entire Arraignment Hearing.
Abrignac
3 years ago
All seem to be charges relating to a Federal election which two Federal agencies found no basis for charges. Then a DEMOCRAT DA from a DEMOCRAT city in a DEMOCRAT state seems to have made a huge leap to justify state charges.

In a tit for tat move, REPUBLICAN DA’s across the country will now do the same to DEMOCRATS.

What fuqqin joke politics has become.
frankj1
3 years ago
maybe we should move Politics to the General discussion forum, Anth?
HA!
rfenst
3 years ago
Statement of facts document also filed by state, which is different than charges filed:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23741595-read-trump-indictment-statement-of-facts-related-to-hush-money-payment 
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