Mr. Jones
3 years ago
I'm sure he said something about 20-30 yrs back when he was drunk in an interview...

Other than that...

...he has my vote compared to BIDEN IN THE SECRET OCCIDENTAL GRILLE BASEMENT DINING ROOM GREENLIGHTING MR. JONES WITH OBAMMY AND COMEY WHILST EATING SURF AND TURF AND 100 YR OLD VSOP REMY MARTIN COGNAC AND DOING PHARM BLOW...

AND NO WAY IM VOTING FOR TRUMP AGAIN...

I LIKE LIZ CHENEY'S RECENT statement at some political conference...she said " WE KEEP ELECTING IDIOTS FOR PRESIDENT "....( AND I SAY " PLUS MORONS FOR VICE PRESIDENT " )
Mr. Jones
3 years ago
Now the poor "horse talker" is getting canceled by his own family? The Israelis?, the Hebrew establishment, and the chiree just grin and laugh ( I think they find it very ironic, as do I)....

If you design a virus?
Why not tweek it just a tad to be way more lethal in certain ethnic categories, if our Era science can even achieve that goal?
I have no idea at all.
DrMaddVibe
3 years ago

If you design a virus?
Why not tweek it just a tad to be way more lethal in certain ethnic categories, if our Era science can even achieve that goal?
I have no idea at all.

Mr. Jones wrote:




Not bought into the idea, however seeing as how sinister Tony Fauci is...why would it surprise me if it came to light that the labs (all over the world people) were dialing in their own "brew".

Get your boosters and have ze papiers when we ask for them! Heil Biden!
rfenst
3 years ago

I didn't see anywhere where Kennedy said the WUHAN Virus was designed to give the Chinese and Jews an economic advantage. That must have been something you read between the lines in your legal weasel mind just like that antisemitic and racist schtick.
You better go hide because I'm sure you're feeling threatened as a minority by his wurds.

RayR wrote:



I was wrong on the Chinese economic adantage allegation.

But, you need to read this again:

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory this week that the coronavirus could have been a bioweapon “deliberately targeted” to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people [/h]while disproportionately attacking White and Black people"....

"His remarks at the gathering... amplify racist and antisemitic tropes, including theories that blame Jews for the spread of the coronavirus to expand influence and financial gain...."
Abrignac
3 years ago

I was wrong on the Chinese economic adantage allegation.

But, you need to read this again:

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory this week that the coronavirus could have been a bioweapon “deliberately targeted” to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people [/h]while disproportionately attacking White and Black people"....

"His remarks at the gathering... amplify racist and antisemitic tropes, including theories that blame Jews for the spread of the coronavirus to expand influence and financial gain...."

rfenst wrote:



Sorry Robert. I don’t connect the dots. Are we not allowed to discuss certain issues? It seems to me he says that there is evidence of. To me that’s not the same as him saying something is definitive. Besides I think it’s a very bad thing when we as a society say we can’t discuss certain topics because it may offend this group or that one.
RayR
3 years ago

I was wrong on the Chinese economic adantage allegation.

But, you need to read this again:

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory this week that the coronavirus could have been a bioweapon “deliberately targeted” to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people [/h]while disproportionately attacking White and Black people"....

"His remarks at the gathering... amplify racist and antisemitic tropes, including theories that blame Jews for the spread of the coronavirus to expand influence and financial gain...."

rfenst wrote:



I already went over the hit-piece propaganda words in #37.
Accusations by LEFTY activists that RFK Jr. "advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory" and amplified "racist and antisemitic tropes" don't make it so. They make false associations with RFK Jr. and some unnamed conspiracy theorists. If there is any smidgen of truth, they'll stretch it totally out of proportion to where there is no truth at all, they weaponize words to use against their victim, it's their modus operandi.




HockeyDad
3 years ago
What really should be discussed is how Covid-19 affected transgenders and their gender transitioning journeys.

Any other discussions should basically be a misdemeanor charge.
rfenst
3 years ago

Sorry Robert. I don’t connect the dots. Are we not allowed to discuss certain issues? It seems to me he says that there is evidence of. To me that’s not the same as him saying something is definitive. Besides I think it’s a very bad thing when we as a society say we can’t discuss certain topics because it may offend this group or that one.

Abrignac wrote:


I do not believe in squelching free speech, especially political speech, but I am concerned with highly likely prejudicial/dangerous comments like that- about any group- when there is no proof given. "There is a study" or the like... doesn't cut it. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. But, a comment like that should be held up to intellectual scrutiny hard and fast.

There is also a limit to free speech (hate speech being one) that has not been reached here yet, but which is of great concern given Kennedy's long history of bigoted comments.

If people want to believe Ashkenazi Jews were “deliberately targeted” to be spared, that's fine- even if they are wrong. But, that is a dangerous accusation in society by a popular candidate during turbulent times.

Antisemitism and racial hatred and crimes against others has increased markedly over the last several years. It doesn't take much to extrapolate from his words that Jews might have had something to do with the covid virus' creation. There are too many rich examples in history of what the consequences from language like that might be.

Words can have serious consequences. I am just pointing out the detail of what he said. Nothing more. Certainly no squelching under the circumstances.

Nevertheless, he needs to be call out on this kind of crap if he wants to be President.
RayR
3 years ago
"Hate Speech" has no meaning except in so far as it signifies something not desirable by LEFTY.
rfenst
3 years ago

I already went over the hit-piece propaganda words in #37.
Accusations by LEFTY activists that RFK Jr. "advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory" and amplified "racist and antisemitic tropes" don't make it so. They make false associations with RFK Jr. and some unnamed conspiracy theorists. If there is any smidgen of truth, they'll stretch it totally out of proportion to where there is no truth at all, they weaponize words to use against their victim, it's their modus operandi.

RayR wrote:


Read the article. It's all on video.
He brought it up. He said what he said.
This is far from his first time to have been a mistake or simply misspeaking.
HockeyDad
3 years ago
At a minimum it would qualify as wrongthink and qualify for complete suppression by Silicon Valley tech.
Abrignac
3 years ago

I do not believe in squelching free speech, especially political speech, but I am concerned with highly likely prejudicial/dangerous comments like that- about any group- when there is no proof given. "There is a study" or the like... doesn't cut it. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. But, a comment like that should be held up to intellectual scrutiny hard and fast.

There is also a limit to free speech (hate speech being one) that has not been reached here yet, but which is of great concern given Kennedy's long history of bigoted comments.

If people want to believe Ashkenazi Jews were “deliberately targeted” to be spared, that's fine- even if they are wrong. But, that is a dangerous accusation in society by a popular candidate during turbulent times.

Antisemitism and racial hatred and crimes against others has increased markedly over the last several years. It doesn't take much to extrapolate from his words that Jews might have had something to do with the covid virus' creation. There are too many rich examples in history of what the consequences from language like that might be.

Words can have serious consequences. I am just pointing out the detail of what he said. Nothing more. Certainly no squelching under the circumstances.

Nevertheless, he needs to be call out on this kind of crap if he wants to be President.

rfenst wrote:



My comment was made at face value. I really don’t know much about his latest comments. He’s a Kennedy so in my book he’s not someone I’d normally support given his family’s past and his guilt by association.

Be that as it may, I on the other hand welcome anything he says. I’m much more in favor of letting a$$holes speak their mind that way he have a clearer picture of who they really are.

As far as hate speech is concerned, oh well. Who gets to decide what is hate and what is not? Sorry but, we need to learn to toughen up and quit getting butt hurt by what every Tom,****** or Hairy says. In the grand scheme of things we have much bigger fish to fry.
RayR
3 years ago
Now let's get to some real Antisemitism and Racial Hatred. The DemoBolsheviks eat one of their own at this year's lefty circle jerk called Netroots Nation. Allegedly the chair of Congressional Progressive Caucus was openly engaging in hate speech at a public gathering that was not currently approved by the DNC and she had to be denounced and shunned for speaking out loud something they all probably think.


Democrats denounce Rep. Pramila Jayapal calling Israel a ‘racist state’

By Ryan King
July 17, 2023

Leading House Democrats distanced themselves Monday from top progressive Rep. Pramila Jayapal’s characterization of Israel as a “racist state” over the weekend as official Washington prepares for a visit by the Jewish state’s president, Isaac Herzog.

Jayapal (D-Wash.), who chairs the Congressional Progressive Caucus, made the controversial retort while seeking to assuage protesters at the progressive Netroots Nation conference on Saturday. She later walked the comment back, but party leaders quickly tried to make clear she didn’t speak for them.

“Israel is not a racist state,” House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), Minority Whip Katherine Clark (D-Mass.) and Caucus Chair Pete Aguilar (D-Calif.) said in a joint statement.

“As a Jewish and Democratic nation, Israel was founded 75 years ago on the principle of complete equality of social and political rights for all of its citizens irrespective of religion, race or sex, as codified in its Declaration of Independence.”

More...

https://nypost.com/2023/07/17/democrats-denounce-rep-jayapals-calling-israel-a-racist-state/ 

rfenst
3 years ago

MAs far as hate speech is concerned, oh well. Who gets to decide what is hate and what is not? Sorry but, we need to learn to toughen up and quit getting butt hurt by what every Tom,****** or Hairy says. In the grand scheme of things we have much bigger fish to fry.

Abrignac wrote:



No.

Hate Speech is not a mere insult (with respect to which I agree with you). Instead, it is speech that by it's very utterance causes harm. What Kennedy said does that.

I will await someone to prove the truth of what he said about how the virus was designed to specifically protect Jews. My common sense over-rules that b.s.
Speyside2
3 years ago
He will be inconsequential in 2024. He is bombastic, and a liar. Truth is not important to him. This is shaking out to be Biden and Trump 2. By backing Trump no matter what the Republicans are making a massive strategic mistake. The door has been opened for a blue tide. The Democrats may end up with the House, the Senate with a super majority, and the presidency. If this happens SCOTUS members could be impeached and convicted. None of the above is good for our country. The game within the game really has very little to do with Trump, as he is unelectable.
HockeyDad
3 years ago

He will be inconsequential in 2024. He is bombastic, and a liar. Truth is not important to him. This is shaking out to be Biden and Trump 2. By backing Trump no matter what the Republicans are making a massive strategic mistake. The door has been opened for a blue tide. The Democrats may end up with the House, the Senate with a super majority, and the presidency. If this happens SCOTUS members could be impeached and convicted. None of the above is good for our country. The game within the game really has very little to do with Trump, as he is unelectable.

Speyside2 wrote:



Blue Tide is the ultimate dream. California at the national level followed by the complete transformation of the nation.
ZRX1200
3 years ago
Spey isn’t gonna like the next election.
RayR
3 years ago

Spey isn’t gonna like the next election.

ZRX1200 wrote:



Or will he? 🤔
You never know with Spey.
Mr. Jones
3 years ago
Spey spey hey hey...
RayR
3 years ago
Character assassination, accusations of racism and not following the science...that's par for the course for LEFTY arguments.

'Defamations': Dems pile on RFK Jr. as racist, antisemite after censorship hearing disinvite fails

Democratic challenger to President Biden says he was citing Cleveland Clinic study in recent controversy over "ethnically targeted" virus. "You can't make this stuff up," GOP member says of Democratic tactics.

Congressional Democrats have attempted to bury Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in an avalanche of racism and pseudoscience allegations concerning his statements about COVID-19 — after unsuccessfully trying to get him disinvited before – and during – Thursday's hearing of the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of Federal Government.

Their Republican colleagues expressed glee at the optics of Democrats seemingly trying to censor a repeat victim of government-tinged censorship — a "Disinformation Dozen" member challenging President Biden for the 2024 Democratic nomination — at a hearing on that very issue.

"You can't make this stuff up," Rep. Mike Johnson (R-La.) said, and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) marveled at what he called the "irony and cognitive dissonance" of the subcommittee minority.

Democrats tried a similar discrediting tactic at a COVID origins hearing this year against former New York Times science reporter Nicholas Wade, who helped verify the legitimacy of the lab-leak theory, for his 2014 book on the "genetic basis of race."

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https://justthenews.com/government/congress/defamations-dems-pile-rfk-jr-racist-antisemite-after-censorship-hearing 

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