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HockeyDad
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2 years ago

#21

Next year’s playoff format will just include all SEC teams. ESPN and Disney will be happy.

Palama
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2 years ago

#22

I think 2 things can be true at the same time.

FSU got f--ked. And not in the way that feels good. They did... no way around it. They checked all the boxes, had the better record and were left out.

I also think the committee did the right thing. Without Jordan Travis, I think FSU would lose bad to any of the teams selected. We will see if the committee screwed up when UGA and FSU go head to head.

IIRC there is a provision in the selection criteria that mentions key players.

MACS wrote:

I’ve seen that thrown around. Not saying it’s not in there, but I don’t recall it being clearly spelled out.

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sports/2016/10/24/selection-committee-protocol

Tough break for FSU, but based on what I read I don’t think a a nefarious conspiracy was required to rank FSU #5 instead of one of the top 4.

Abrignac wrote:

In the sidebar under “Principles”:

“Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.”

MACS
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2 years ago

#23

Next year’s playoff format will just include all SEC teams. ESPN and Disney will be happy.

HockeyDad wrote:

Save your outrage until after the UGA v FSU bowl game. If both teams have all available players in the game... and it's a close game, you can be outraged. If it's a blowout, it will prove they were correct.

KingoftheCove
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2 years ago

#24

MACS wrote:

Yah…………..what would be fuqin hilarious?
FSU 42. UGA 13

And then Bama beats Texas 16-14 in the championship game.

Now FSU has a strong case to be #1 in the nation.

HockeyDad
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2 years ago

#25

MACS wrote:

If both teams have all available players…..well there is the asterisk. How many will decline to play and turn pro? Perhaps enough to say any result is irrelevant.

DrMaddVibe
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2 years ago

#26

MACS wrote:

Why? They lost their star QB and they still won without him. I remember when the TV swami's were saying how this new bowl schedule will weed out the 1-2 loss teams from being up there with the undefeated teams. Not their fault most of America doesn't know the conferences these undefeated teams come from! I say put them in. Regardless. I'm no fan of giving trophies away. Losing builds character too, and we were all robbed from seeing undefeated teams slug it out. Instead they dropped teams to fit their supposed narratives (Can't wait till we find out they were PAID OFF!!!!) into their little bowl games. Meh. Said it years ago, let them play.

Everyone should be outraged about this crap. It's a cheat. A swindle. Are they going to erect barbwire barricades around all of the stadiums like they did in DC for Biden's Walk of Shame? Kinda the same thing isn't it.

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DrMaddVibe
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2 years ago

#27

If both teams have all available players…..well there is the asterisk. How many will decline to play and turn pro? Perhaps enough to say any result is irrelevant.

HockeyDad wrote:

WHOA...Deion isn't going to a Bowl game.

Palama
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2 years ago

#28

Yah…………..what would be fuqin hilarious?
FSU 42. UGA 13

And then Bama beats Texas 16-14 in the championship game.

Now FSU has a strong case to be #1 in the nation.

KingoftheCove wrote:

Hahahahahaha! In what fantasy world are you living in? 😂

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KingoftheCove
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2 years ago

#29

Hahahahahaha! In what fantasy world are you living in? 😂

Palama wrote:

#-o
Doh!!…
Forgot for a brief second that FSU is down to their 3rd string QB

Maybe if their stud was healthy…….but…
Hey, ya never know.
Just checked out UGA’s schedule again……….um…………….weak sauce………..the worst of all teams in the top 6.

Thing is, people forget that playing cream puffs gives teams a HUGE advantage in many areas over the course of a season.
THAT is something that needs to stop………….but the sheep schools need the $$$, so they gladly throw their young people into the slaughter…
That is fuqed up, has always been fuqed up, and needs to change, especially now, that the entire collegiate sports system is being scrapped.

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Abrignac
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2 years ago

#30

In the 36 team model, the 1-12 teams would get a first round bye.
Much like they are going to do with the 12 team playoff next year, where I believe the top four will get a bye.

If the didn’t, 12 would become 6, 6 would become 3. And then….

8trackdisco wrote:

Damn Russ I get all that. 😂

EDIT: BTW Russ this not to be construed as a disagreement with you, but more of wondering aloud.

The point I’ve been trying to make in like 4 posts is why give anyone a bye. March Madness doesn’t give byes. Inviting 16 teams though would add 2 additional games wouldn’t extend the season because those 2 extra games would be played the same week as the other 6 games in round 1. Plus it adds 4 more teams to the mix making the system fairer perhaps by giving 4 more teams the opportunity to compete.

I can see it now. Team A beats Team B in round 1. In round 2 Team A loses to Team C who happened to have had a round 1 bye. Now Team A claims they were robbed because Team C had an extra week to heal, prepare, etc….

So instead of a new and improved dog we simply have the same dog, just different fleas. Eliminate the byes and this possibility goes away.

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KingoftheCove
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2 years ago

#31

Ugh……….went down a few brutal Internet rabbit holes on this whole thing….
And well, my stance has changed………somewhat…
FSU is getting FUQED……….with no lube……….and it’s embarrassing.
Bama 5, FSU in at 3 or 4………Texas/washington stay in

Let Bama and UGA slug it out……….

Problem is, NOW, several, and possibly more than several players from BOTH FSU AND UGA, wont play in the”We Got Snubbed” Bowl game, either because of the transfer portal, or the NFL dream.
That said, the “result” of the game will “prove” nothing, if each team is only playing 6 or 7 starters on both sides of the ball.

The whole thing is FUBAR, driven by TV money and corporate greed.
(what else is new?)

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HockeyDad
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2 years ago

#32

The important thing is the SEC has one or two teams in the championship.

DrMaddVibe
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2 years ago

#33

The important thing is the SEC has one or two teams in the championship.

HockeyDad wrote:

And Notre Dame get a bowl game too... God bless us one and all!

Abrignac
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2 years ago

#34

Horst what you said actually helps drive a nail into the coffin of the current post season bowl format.

As it stands, only 4 teams compete for the championship. From a desirable and draft eligible player’s perspective there is little incentive to play in a post season bowl absent national championship implications. They aren’t going to be paid to play in a game that for them is essentially meaningless even though their school will be paid handsomely. So I don’t see any incentive for them to risk injury thus a large paycheck.

On the other hand a playoff with say 16 teams where beginning with the first round each team has an equal chance to eventually play for the title and a ring for each player along with bragging rights there is some incentive for those players to play until their team is eliminated or they win the title game.

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MACS
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2 years ago

#35

If both teams have all available players…..well there is the asterisk. How many will decline to play and turn pro? Perhaps enough to say any result is irrelevant.

HockeyDad wrote:

And that's what the committee gets... if those kids are all like... Eff this... I don't blame them.

KingoftheCove
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2 years ago

#36

Regarding college stars not playing in bowl games due to…………….NFL dreams, the portal, or whatever…

Me wonders how the NIL people will structure future deals with the college football “stars”……………maybe, “no play, no pay” will soon become the norm in contracts…
Ha!

Abrignac
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2 years ago

#37

KingoftheCove wrote:

Honestly I don’t think the people offering the money for the deals really care if the person plays in a bowl game.

KingoftheCove
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2 years ago

#38

Honestly I don’t think the people offering the money for the deals really care if the person plays in a bowl game.

Abrignac wrote:

Hmmm……….I dont know what percentage of NIL money comes from corporate sponsors versus private donors.
I would think the corporate ones would want their pound of flesh so to speak.

KingoftheCove
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2 years ago

#39

Then again, as i think of it more, you are probably right Anthony, especially if they ( corporate sponsor) want to keep the athlete beyond college for NIL money, etc.

Abrignac
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2 years ago

#40

Then again, as i think of it more, you are probably right Anthony, especially if they ( corporate sponsor) want to keep the athlete beyond college for NIL money, etc.

KingoftheCove wrote:

Basically the player is nothing more than a paid spokesperson. The NIL contract is to attract a player to a specific school.

The sponsor is simply a booster willing to pay to get a player. Once the player’s eligibility is exhausted the incentive to pay them NIL money expires.

Couple that with the fact that anyone worth an NIL deal can be expected to receive a huge pro sports signing bonus within say a year of signing the deal. So I’m certain part of the negotiation includes language exempting the player from post season play if the school isn’t playing for a championship.

It’s now common practice for players to skip post season play. So why sign a deal that risks injury from a booster of school A when they can sell their services, including favorable terms to said deals, to the highest bidder via the portal?

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