esplendidoschick, i think you will be pleasantly surprised when you try the shiner bock... and as a matter of fact, i believe shiner has just recently become available in parts of california...

Okay, my local Vons grocery store doesn't carry Shiner Bock so I tried Spaten Premium. I didn't like it at first while it was real cold, but as it's warming up, I'm liking it better. Either that or it's just strong enough to kick my butt and make me THINK it's good...I'm going to Beverages N' More tomorrow to search it out. ps. also bought some Rolling Rock but didn't pop it yet.

Ayinger Celebrator

Deschutes Abyss - but has to be paired with a strong smoke

Maui Brewing Coconut Hiwa Porter

This guy knows a good beer... just saying.

New Holland Dragon's Milk BA

Prairie Bomb

Taxman Exemption