One of the problems with this crime is that so little makes sense. So when one tries to isolate one aspect, all these other irrerularities start to confuse the issue.

For instance: These planes flew by several air force bases as if the air force was helpless to stop them. If this were hypothetically true(it isn't), why couldn;t these magic planes fly to Florida. They already flew through several other states after they were known to be hijacked.

I knew beforehand that it would be difficult to have this exercise stay on target. I've noticed this unique and interesting problem before. It's like trying to solve a physics problem by first throwing out all the known laws of physics. It kinda makes it confusing.

The same Secret Service that allowed Hinkley to walk up and pop a cap in Reagans ass on the street?

Yeah, they aren't incompetent at all.

Hindsight is 20 20, allbidness. Now knowing what their intentions were of course it seems like "why didn't we scramble the air force? They flew right by them". Most hijackings don't end in flying planes into buildings in crowded cities.

There is definitly a pre and post 9/11 mindset. We are asking questions with a post 9/11 mindset of how people with a pre 9/11 mindset reacted. The scary thing is airport security still sucks.

usahog

During a military offensive it is common to use more than one weapon. There was no reason to assume the president was NOT a target. There is no reason not to relocate him and many reasons to do so.

There were other indications of danger:

[AP, 07/29/01] "Zainlabdeen Omer, a Sudanese native living in Sarasota, told the local police that night that someone he knew who had made violent threats against Bush was in town and Omer was worried about Bush’s safety."

"At about the same time Bush was getting ready for his jog, a van carrying several Middle Eastern men pulled up to the Colony’s guard station. The men said they were a television news crew with a scheduled “poolside” interview with the president. They asked for a certain Secret Service agent by name. The message was relayed to a Secret Service agent inside the resort, who hadn’t heard of the agent mentioned or of plans for an interview. He told the men to contact the president’s public relations office in Washington, DC, and had the van turned away." [Longboat Observer, 9/26/01]

And these are just two KNOWN possible threats. Why assume there aren't UNKNOWN threats? His position was compromised. If the country is under attack you secure the president. Right?

MikeyRavioli,

Actually, concerning planes that deviate from flight plans, pre-911 the standard procedure was to intercept the plane in question just as was done with Payne Stewart's jet prior to 911. Rarely did it take more than twenty or thirty minutes to do so.

But this is also off topic. All of these issues have nothing to do with the question.

If the country is under attack and the president position is compromised and not defensible(like an elementary school), why didn't they move the president?

Why? What's the significance? I don't know! The mind plays tricks on you. You play tricks back! It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting and knitting and knitting and knitting and knitting and knitting...

"For instance: These planes flew by several air force bases as if the air force was helpless to stop them."

They were helpless.. not all Air Force bases prior to 911 were allowed to have live Air Craft on their ramps 24/7 around the clock.. many of these are in area's of populations (City's, Towns etc.)

besides that.. we America was cought with our pants down.. we didn't have a clue as to what was taking place right off the bat.. and then (like the Katrina disaster) all these thousands of policy's and procedures and steps are in place in the event something like this would happen.. well it did, and everybody was stepping over their dicks to figure out what to do next? and what orders to follow in this event.. yanking the Regulations off the shelves, dusting them off, opening them up and finding the chapter that pertains to this procedures? in the MEANTIME Air Traffic Controlers WERE Tracking these suspected hijacked Aircraft notifing Norad of the situations falling out.. it was then Norad who picked up the tracking and took the ball from there.. fumbling for the chapter and verse for the orders and procedures to follow? Norad/Pentagon (Holy ****) the pentagon was just hit.. no orders coming yet?? WTF??

Welcome allbidness and civilians to the real world of Military life.. the hurry up and wait situations dealt with everyday by the one's who put they're asses on the lines!

Now you wanna talk conspiricy.. lets talk about the Anthrax Letters in the mail system to our elected officials offices following 911?? to this day our intellegence agency's do not have a clue as to where these came from? or do they? and there hasn't been any sinse then either.. will there be in the near future? I'd bet my sweet arse there's going to be.. there has to be.. the bio-denfese bill was passed last christmas.. and the only way our Pooliticians are going to make any money off their stocks on these vaccines is there's going to have to be an outbreak and then a scare to the American public! and then you and your family will be lined up and pushing in line to get the vaccine fix-all (Right!) and if and when your Neighbors don't get these vaccines... your going to have to do your duty and turn them into the proper agency's because they are a health risk to yourself/family and the rest of the Neighbors...

There's your Conspiracy to think about.. coming soon to a Theater Near You ;0)~~~

Hog

The President was never in any danger and it was fairly obvious to figure that out. There were no comprimised planes moving toward Florida. I am not an air traffic controller or an expert on the subject but see what Hog said.

not all Air Force bases prior to 911 were allowed to have live Air Craft on their ramps 24/7 around the clock..

Live = Live Loads

I don't think there is a reasonable answer to this reasonable question. As to what this all means, we may never know. But one thing is for sure. Very little made sense that day. If we say it's incompetence, why didn't heads roll. Most of the people in charge were given promotions.

I think everybody knows and it is too painful to acknowledge.

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded

Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed

Everybody knows that the war is over

Everybody knows the good guys lost

Everybody knows the fight was fixed

The poor stay poor, the rich get rich

That's how it goes

Everybody knows

Everybody knows that the boat is leaking

Everybody knows that the captain lied

Everybody got this broken feeling

Like their father or their dog just died

Everybody talking to their pockets

Everybody wants a box of chocolates

And a long stem rose

Everybody knows

Everybody knows that you love me baby

Everybody knows that you really do

Everybody knows that you've been faithful

Ah give or take a night or two

Everybody knows you've been discreet

But there were so many people you just had to meet

Without your clothes

And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows

That's how it goes

Everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows

That's how it goes

Everybody knows

And everybody knows that it's now or never

Everybody knows that it's me or you

And everybody knows that you live forever

Ah when you've done a line or two

Everybody knows the deal is rotten

Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton

For your ribbons and bows

And everybody knows

And everybody knows that the Plague is coming

Everybody knows that it's moving fast

Everybody knows that the naked man and woman

Are just a shining artifact of the past

Everybody knows the scene is dead

But there's gonna be a meter on your bed

That will disclose

What everybody knows

And everybody knows that you're in trouble

Everybody knows what you've been through

From the bloody cross on top of Calvary

To the beach of Malibu

Everybody knows it's coming apart

Take one last look at this Sacred Heart

Before it blows

And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows

That's how it goes

Everybody knows

Oh everybody knows, everybody knows

That's how it goes

Everybody knows

Everybody knows

allbidness,

I never heard your reply to the Antrax Letters Conspiracy??

Hog