I don't really know much about Wayne's personal life Rick, except he died of cancer, claimed to be politically conservative, etc. Allz I know is that for me, growing up with Wayne killing indians and japs with such steely eyes, he kinda became hero-figure, as perverse (and natural) as that may be.

I reckon a lot of public figures, especially actors, who depend on public recognition, assume the outward public personas of the scripted personas they're directed to play. How Wayne felt personally, I honestly haven't a clue. Look at Reagan though; Mr. anti-commie made quite a lengthy career from B actor to A politician by going public with his scripts. Politics? entertainment? reality? art? Hard to tell the difference sometimes.

Dr Pepperhill

"going public with his scripts" it has been said he would be talking about something and slip into something he said in a movie. he apparently couldn't tell the difference.

wayne in a semi documentry, while talking with his friends was discussing moving cattle to market.

he said. "it's a good thing they aren't angus, we would have to buss them to market."

it takes very little for me to see rascism.

i asked you if you had read either blink or the tipping point. this would be well explained in blink. it's called thin slicing.

if anybody wants to challange me on my rascism observation, don't bother. you either see it or you don't and telling you why won't teach you anything.

Sorry Rick but an off comment/joke made about "busing" that was most likely made around the early 1970's is hardly IMHO a reason to hate anyone, including John Wayne.

LOL

jjohnson28

please don't confuse understanding him with hating him.

i don't hate him, i just had a peek into his mind set.

in my business, in a few seconds, i have to know whether the person sitting in front of me is someone i want to do business with. my agency is set up on a person to person relationship. sometimes clients come to my house.

mostly they think of me as someone they can depend on and like and it needs to go both ways.

i do business with people that openly say "are you a Jew?" i don't mind the question and it doesn't mean i can't do business with him or her.

80 % of my clients are mexican but people do come in to the office and in the course of a conversation will say something nasty about "wet backs."

i never try to change anyone.

on the board i scrabble for an argument, it isn't business, it's play.

even with all my strong opinions about poloitics, i never bring the subject up with friends or clients and if they do i just mutter something meaningless.

the board is my baseball, football, and basketball. come on guys, let's have a game. i always win because i don't pay any attention to the score. when i stop, i figure i won.

then toby and i go shopping or watch a movie,l or sit out on the front porch at night, in the dark, like a few minutes ago, and shot the ****.

SteveS re 23

documenteries are not, nor were they ever, objective. the documentry is subjective. it is the film maker's opinion about his/her subject matter and he/she will pick the parts that demonstrate his/her opinion and avoid anything that doesn't fit the profile he/she is trying to convey

when leni riefenstahl made all the films for hitler, she was showing her point of view about the man, who in her mind was a great man.

mcgrubbs

sorry i missed responding to you. catch you later.

Jarhead sucked. It is nothing like sniper school, the Marine Corps, or war. It was Jamie Foxx's worst movie - "bootycall" was better, and probably classier.

Was John Wayne the gay guy or the Klansman? I don't remember.

adroomi - I hope a crack head muggs you and scalps you for your comment about John Wayne being your hero for killing indians. That would be karma.

Gringo

Having a son e Iraq for a tour of duty and knowing several Iraq/Vietnam/Korea/WWII veterans, I am not keen to see another Hollywood war movie.

Watch the movie “TEAM AMERICA” after that you will want nothing to do with the thing the “Film Actors Guild” produces.

As far as actors go, they just act and while it may be entertaining, it does not amount to much of anything.

Try reading the book, “Spare parts: a Marine reservist's journey from campus to combat in 38 days”

Gene363

my very best to your son and my he return home safe and sound and soon.

Rick,

Thank you very much, actually he is home now. The only casualty was his marriage but he has since upgraded considerably. I apologize for the confusion. I should have said,

“Having had a son in Iraq for a tour of duty…”

My typing is not so good and aggravated today by back problems. Got an MRI scheduled for this afternoon.

Rick,

You stated:

"i do business with people that openly say "are you a Jew?"..."

You then immediately followed with:

"80 % of my clients are mexican ..."

Are you sure they weren't simply asking "how are you"?

Gene363

don't forget to smile during the MRI.

tailgater

excellent question. big diference between are you mexican/jewish and are you a mexican/jew.

the first part is a question of nationality or religion with no adjectives.

in the second part of the sentence the "a" is used as a negative adjective essentially transforming the mexican/jew to spick/kike.

Rick,

Sorry to confuse you.

I was making a joke.

"how are you" could possibly SOUND LIKE "are you jew?" when spoken in a thick accent.

It loses its' impact when it needs 'splaining.

tailgaqotor

my bad, i missed it.

Forget all about "Jarhead." Check this out: [http://tinyurl.com/m3khb].

from what was available to see, i don't thik this will be edited for propeganda purposes. i shall see it as soon as possible.