a very bright friend of min has a system that wins all the time. he wins at least one chip on every spin. 13 spins an hour, 13 chip win. the problem with it is if you lose 6 or 7 times, you are laying out a lot of your own money to get the 13 chips per hour, i will post it when he gives it to me in writing so i don't screw up the system. this is probably best played on line without money to see what it looks like.

i use the "star the wheel" system and try to "grind" the house. i play eight numbers almost equally spaced around the wheel. the idea is you are always close to one of you numbers. i bet 10 - 15 and 21 and 33. those numbers are no better then any 8 numbers equally spaced, but they are easier to bet. just sit down in front of the 10 - 15. i but 4 stacks. when they are gone i am done. "fixed loss." one on each number until one hits, 5 on each number and if one of them hits i go to 10, if i get another hit i go to 25. if one of the numbers hits at that bet, i cash out. write the bets and the winnings down and you will see when you lay out a 10 chip bet on each, you are ahead and playing with house money. your loss is fixed at the 4 stacks, your potential win has no ceiling. i usually lose, but not much, and occassionally win big.

bj i bet 2 chips, win i pull one and bet three, win i pull one and bet the house five, i have my original bet back so i can't lose my money on that hand. i use 2, 3, 5, 7, 10 cycle. anytime you lose, back to two chips. if you know the proposition bets, always take them. if you don't don't waste your money. never take insurance unless you have black jack yourself.

the hardest machines to find are the dueces poker because if you read the books, and play properly with a progression of bets up, as you are winning, you have a better chance to win then on any slot. that is why these machines are hard to find. they are not as good for the house as the noisy, lots of light flashing, and cute animations that most people play for amusment and end up losing. also never play credits on a machine, you have to end with zero.

money management is the key. play with house money.