All things in moderation

--plato

All things in moderation - yes, I can agree with that....except at the June 21st herf.

Eat, drink, smoke and be merry ... to excess.

too many things aren't good for you ... so many things are said to be bad that how can you go along with all of it? The statement that you're not going to find a doc to say it's ok is probably a very accurate one ... if he says it's no problem, then you get sick because of it, you're gonna sue him and maybe win ... so of course he won't say it's ok ...

My take is ... the hell with it ... I'm gonna do things my way and let the chips fall where they may ...

Remember - at the end - each one of us (smoker and non-smoker) eventually succumbs to a fatal illness.

Now - since we are all heading towards this finale - the only question is do you want to go out with a BIG SMILE looking back at the countless hours of hedonistic pleasure and fantastic companionship that your being part of the Brotherhood/Sisterhood of the Leaf has brought you ?

I say - smoke the good stuff - and let them all see you SMILE at the end....

I agree with jmvfvra. Smoke, drink, and eat Mary.

Thats Right docrks you got it I agree 1,000 percent. TinMan

The sound that strikes fear in most men -- The snapping noise of the wrist band on a surgical glove, followed by "bend over please".

BUD

great posts all, if i can add so what if cigars take a year of the end of my life. Most likely that year would be one i wouldnt remeber who i am or need help wiping my behind.... humm rather love on the cigar now.

I find cigar smoking very relaxing. I agree with Rick taking the time to sit back and relax with a gar helps us all to unwind. What I want to know is what is the name of those weight loss cigars? My wife would be pleased if I could loose a few pounds puffin gars...

The number killer in the USA is Heart Disease. So you should be more worried about being good shape, having a strong heart, and clear arteries before you start worrying about lung cancer.

However, its a proven fact that smoking causes higher risk of cancer. And Yes, every disease in some form of another are genetically based, but environment plays a huge role as well. No one can accurately say that its one or the other because each individual case is different. Some can smoke all day and night, and still never get lung cancer, while some people just get lung cancer spontaneously.

So, here's the deal. You know the risk, its up to you if you are willing to take that risk. No one is putting a gun up to your head. Everyone in these forums chooses to enjoy the pleasures of the leaf. If you are looking for someone to say that you can smoke and there is no side effect, then they would be lying. There is risk involved in everything you do and you must make that choice to do it or not.

choner

Correction: the post above should read: the number one killer......

In my opinion there is no doubt that nicotine, in any form, is to some degree detrimental to your health. However, so are many other things that we indulge in. I was put on a low cholestrol diet once. Easy to keep up with; if you put something in your mouth that tasted good, you had to spit it out. After two days I decided that I'd take my chances with cholestrol. My doctor made the comment that he didn't want to have to come to my funeral. My response was, "Don't, you're not invited..." We engage in any number of risky behaviors on almost a daily basis. My philosophy is that we make ourselves aware of the risks, and then we make our choices. I strongly emphasize that this is MY philosophy, and mine alone. I would not suggest or encourage anyone to behave as I do. Their behavior is their choice. I do have a problem with some areas of the country that exclude/isolate/alienate an entire group of men and women, i.e., those who choose to smoke, while preaching inclusion/tolerance for almost any other fringe element/group.....but I don't want to get off on that rant...my blood pressure will go up and that's unhealthy.

Very well stated!

Ver well stated on all posts. I concur!! Thank you for the feedback!! Live long and prosper,

The herfing bus will continue on its ride to INCREDIABLE smokes and the pleasure it provides 🙂

Post script:

My Grand father smoked two cigars daily until his death at 98 years of age. Cancer did not get him, the "life clock" simply ran down.

BUD

You know Bud, if smoking cigars causes that "surgical glove" thing You mentioned earlier You're doing it wrong.

ras;

OUCH, knew that I was doing something wrong - LOL

BUD

Would you know the difference is your life was shortened by any unhealthy habits? (Short of doing things like base jumping without a parachute, or wearing a bra and panties to prison)I really don't think anyone knows when their time is up or how they are going to die.

Say for instance November 14 2020 is your day on the calendar. You can be a pack a day smoker or a soul who has never touched an unhealthy substance in his/her life. Guess what...November 14 2020 is your day. You never knew it, you can't avoid it. The clerk called your number...you gotta go. If you have been sick for 2 years and finally pass or a wing falls off a plane and drops through your bedroom ceiling...it is your day.

It's not a theological point of view. If it were, bad people would die young and we all know that's not the case. Your job is to take care of the here and now. If you desire, provide something for your kids when you bail out. Don't worry too much about what will happen, just take care of yourself here. I agree with moderation in everything but never miss anything if you can help it.

You can always tip the hat of your demise in your favor by going overboard with something, hasten the process, hence my comment of doing something risky to shorten your life. But if you take fairly good care of yourself and familiy and live a happy life then it isn't a wasted life when you're done living it. I say...smoke 'em if you got 'em.