Homebrew
22 years ago
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98653,00.html 
Now I wonder, Will the Bush administration, appoint an unbiased investigator, or is it going to be More smoke and Mirrors. If they have nothing to hide, I say there will be an independent investigation. But probably not. In My opinion, whoever leaked the CIA operatives Identity, are guilty of espionage, against the US government, and should be charged as such.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. An No It doesn't matter who it is.
Homebrew
22 years ago
here's another link.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98673,00.html 
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
Deriffe
22 years ago
You might also want to point out the fact that the author of the news story is adament that his source is NOT inside the white house. Seems that little fact has been neglected.
cwilhelmi
22 years ago
There's other credible journalists who say they were contacted with the same info from a White House source...
Homebrew
22 years ago
Hey Deriffe,
Read again. He said he was not contacted, by the White House, but that he contacted them, and sites, two people high, in the Bush White house, with the info he released. He is also refusing to release those neames.
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Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
usahog
22 years ago
Like I been Saying... Bush has allot of "Yes Men" around him left over from the Clinton years... and he needs to download!!!!!

I think they (Bush) should Appoint an all Democratic Group to do the Investigations....

Just my .02 worth
Hog


eleltea
22 years ago
I heard it was not much of a secret. A lot of people knew about it but didn't write about it. Wonder why Novak did.
xibbumbero
22 years ago
Maybe to impress Kim. X
uncleb
22 years ago
I just know in about 10 years there is going to be a post on this forum talking about George W. getting a drunk driving ticket and the reply will come that it wasn't George's fault.... Clinton was forcing him to drink.
cwilhelmi
22 years ago
uncleb - LMAO!! So true...

Here's a good non-partisan synopsis on the whole scandal...

http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#spy 
Homebrew
22 years ago
Hey Chris,
I don't know about non-partisan?????? But pretty accurate, even though it had a definate spin, to the left. The facts, are as stated.
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Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
Robby
22 years ago
Hey Chris, the independent counsel statute has expired. The dems were "violently opposed" to it during the Clinton era *your time?* The same people who decried the heinous travesty of justice and waste of tax payer dollars brought about by Ken Star are now clamoring for an independent counsel? What's wrong with this picture? How is this not "purely political?"
Homebrew
22 years ago
Hey Robby,
Everything, is purely political. SNAFU, the way our government has been, for 35+ years. Situation normal all fucked up.
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Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. It's all a waste of taxpayers money. But I still vote.
Robby
22 years ago
That's true, but it doesn't address the point I made.
Homebrew
22 years ago
Yes it does, Robby,
It's all political. Both sides do it, and both sides, claim that the other side shouldn't. I support the independent counsil, in both cases. I just think that it should stay on topic. Cost a whole lot less, than going from land deals, to blowjobs. Get a special prosecuter, who isn't on a witch hunt.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
usahog
22 years ago
http://andrewsullivan.com 

SINCE SHE WAS TEN? Drudge pulls together an obvious discrepancy. Former CIA guy Larry Johnson claimed on PBS' Newshour last night that he had worked with Valerie Plame as an undercover agent for thirty years. But she's forty. That's some early recruitment. Here's what we can say for sure: whenever she was recruited, outing her was criminal and wrong. But everything else looks murkier and murkier. Obviously, I deeply suspect Joseph Wilson. He's a guy happily calling pro-war types "right-wing crazies" well before the war, yet is asked to perform a critical intelligence mission for the Bushies. How? Why? The WSJ has a good point on this, although I find their dismissal of the basic charge to be gratuitously partisan. It would be nice if an editorial board like the Journal's, that pioneered all sorts of (often worthy) investigations into the Clintons, could work up a smidgen of concern that someone's CIA cover had been illegally blown.
- 10:12:11 AM

Hog
usahog
22 years ago
http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/goto/?getPage=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewashingtonpost%2Ecom%2Fac2%2Fwp%2Ddyn%2FA23124%2D2003Sep30%3Flanguage%3Dprinter&return=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edrudgereportarchives%2Ecom%2Fdsp%2Flinks%5Frecap%2Ehtm 
Bush Wants to 'Know the Truth' About Iraq Leak
Reuters
Tuesday, September 30, 2003; 3:35 PM

CHICAGO (Reuters) - President Bush called on Tuesday for anyone with information about those who disclosed the identity of a CIA official to come forward, saying: "I want to know the truth."

"If anybody's got any information inside our administration or outside our administration, it would be helpful if they came forward," Bush told reporters after meeting with business leaders in Chicago. It was Bush's first public comment on the controversy.

Hog
usahog
22 years ago
http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/goto/?getPage=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewashingtonpost%2Ecom%2Fac2%2Fwp%2Ddyn%2FA23124%2D2003Sep30%3Flanguage%3Dprinter&return=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edrudgereportarchives%2Ecom%2Fdsp%2Flinks%5Frecap%2Ehtm 
Bush Wants to 'Know the Truth' About Iraq Leak
Reuters
Tuesday, September 30, 2003; 3:35 PM

CHICAGO (Reuters) - President Bush called on Tuesday for anyone with information about those who disclosed the identity of a CIA official to come forward, saying: "I want to know the truth."

"If anybody's got any information inside our administration or outside our administration, it would be helpful if they came forward," Bush told reporters after meeting with business leaders in Chicago. It was Bush's first public comment on the controversy.

Hog
usahog
22 years ago
White House denies leaking information to unveil CIA agent
By BENNETT ROTH
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON -- The White House on Monday rebuffed Democrats' calls for an independent prosecutor to probe charges that administration officials illegally disclosed a CIA operative whose husband had challenged Bush's weapons claims in Iraq.

A presidential spokesman also denied that Karl Rove, Bush's chief political adviser, leaked the information.

While the Justice Department is looking into the accusations at the request of the CIA, Democrats argued the investigation should not be in the hands of Attorney General John Ashcroft, a former GOP senator.

"We need an independent commission that can unpack this administration's dirty laundry on the intelligence community," said Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark during a campaign rally Monday in Austin.

But White House spokesman Scott McClellan said that the Justice Department was the proper agency to determine whether the allegations warranted further probing.

While the independent counsel law that covered numerous probes during the Clinton administration has expired, the attorney general has the authority to appoint a special prosecutor to probe the president and other government officials.

The latest accusations, which boiled over after a Washington Post story Sunday confirmed earlier scant reports, have put the White House on the defensive. It comes at a time when the president is facing criticism from Democrats about the high costs of rebuilding Iraq and the inability of the military to find the weapons of mass destruction used to justify the war.

The controversy dominated the two daily White House news briefings, where McClellan said that "there's been nothing, absolutely nothing brought to our attention to suggest White House involvement, and that includes the vice president's office as well."

McClellan sharply rejected suggestions that Rove was involved in naming the CIA operative.

Her identity was first reported in July by syndicated columnist Robert Novak, who cited two administration sources. The column came out shortly after the agent's husband, former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, publicly disputed White House claims that Iraq had sought to buy weapons grade uranium from the African nation of Niger. Bush was later forced to admit that he shouldn't have included the Africa claim in his State of the Union speech.

Wilson has said he suspected that Rove condoned the disclosure of his wife, although he said he has no evidence that the political adviser was the source for Novak's column and calls to other media.

McClellan, who said he has talked with Rove, said any suggestion the political adviser was the source for the leak was"ridiculous."

"He wasn't involved. The president knows he wasn't involved," said McClellan.

However, the spokesman would not say if the president had spoken directly to Rove about the matter.

Rove has faced accusations before that he planted stories with Novak.

In 1992, Rove was fired as a consultant for the Bush-Quayle Texas campaign, after officials suspected that he was the source for a column by Novak and Roland Evans that portrayed the Texas presidential operation as in disarray. Rove was accused of making up the story because of a feud with the campaign's chairman, Rob Mosbacher Jr., whom the column reported, erroneously, was to be dumped.

At the time Rove denied he was the source, and he said the column was false.

Novak, in an interview on CNN, would not divulge his sources but said two administration officials told him that it was Wilson's wife who suggested that he travel to Niger to verify the uranium claim. Novak said that the CIA confirmed her role and "asked me not to use her name, but never indicated it would endanger her or anybody else."

At the White House, McClellan said that no internal investigation had been ordered by the president to determine if staffers leaked the classified information. Doing so is a felony.

"I think we could go down the White House directory of every single staff member and play that game," said McClellan. "I'm not going to do that."

McClellan acknowledged that the number of White House staffers that would have access to information about CIA operatives would be limited.

He said the president does not condone leaks, adding, "if anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration."

The CIA's Office of General Counsel sent a letter in July to the Department of Justice asking them to look into the matter. The letter said that a violation of law had taken place.

Democrats immediately pounced on the controversy, with presidential contender Howard Dean suggesting that it undercut Bush's campaign promise that he would restore "honor and dignity" to the White House.

"The American public has been misled. Federal laws appear to have been broken. The time for accountability is long overdue," said Dean.

Another presidential contender, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, said Ashcroft's tenure has been too political to give the public assurances that he would run an impartial probe. Many Democrats have criticized Ashcroft for pushing anti-terrorism measures that they say led to a curb on civil liberties.

Four Senate Democrats, including Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., also asked Ashcroft to name a special prosecutor.


Clay Robison in Austin and The Associated Press contributed to this story.

usahog
22 years ago
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The White House pledged full cooperation Wednesday with a Justice Department probe into the leak of a CIA operative's name and has followed proper procedures so far, a spokesman told reporters Wednesday.

Press secretary Scott McClellan strongly intimated that President Bush would expect White House aides to take polygraph examinations if the Justice Department asked for them.

"Full cooperation is full cooperation," McClellan said.

All White House employees have been instructed to preserve documents dating to February 2002 that could be relevant to the investigation.

Meanwhile, a meeting scheduled for Wednesday between retired diplomat Joseph Wilson, husband of the CIA operative, and congressional Democrats was canceled out of concern it would undermine his credibility and lead to allegations of political opportunism, Democratic aides said.

Wilson has accused administration officials of leaking the name and occupation of his wife, Valerie Plame, to a journalist in retaliation for an op-ed piece he wrote in The New York Times that implied the administration overstated the threat posed by Iraq before the war. (Full story)

Syndicated columnist and CNN contributor Robert Novak identified Plame by name in a July article as a CIA operative on weapons of mass destruction, citing two senior administration officials.

Novak told CNN Wednesday he would not have printed Plame's name if he knew it would have put her in danger.

He said he and all journalists are routinely asked to withhold stories or names and the CIA made a "weak" request to keep Plame's name out of print.

He said he is still uncertain about Plame's role with the CIA and described her as an "operative" without knowing her role. Novak said he often uses the term "operative" to describe people in his political column.

Sources told CNN said Plame is not an analyst, but a CIA operations officer. She was an active overseas undercover officer for many years and more recently has been working at a management level within the operations section of the CIA, the sources said.

Wilson, who was acting ambassador to Iraq before the Persian Gulf War and later ambassador to Gabon, said the leak was intended to punish him and deter other critics from coming forward with similar accusations on Iraq policy, an allegation administration officials have denied. (Full story)

McClellan said Wednesday the White House has nothing to hide. He said no one has been asked to sit for an interview with investigators, nor has anyone come forward to admit to revealing Plame's identity.

Democrats in Washington raised their voices almost in unison to call for a special counsel to investigate the leak. (Full story) But Bush said he believes the Justice Department can do the job. (Full story)

Ronald Kessler, author of several books on the CIA, said he did not believe the investigation would determine who leaked Plame's CIA role.

"Over the years, maybe one person has been uncovered by the FBI, and that was really a matter of luck," said Kessler, whose most recent book is "The CIA at War: Inside the Secret Campaign Against Terror."

"And actually, the CIA reports roughly once a week compromises of classified information leaks to the Justice Department. They're required to do that.

"It just so happened that I understand the Democrats on the Hill leaked the fact that this report had been made about this particular situation."

The furor began with a July 14 column by Novak, who had been trying to find out why the CIA sent Wilson to Niger to investigate whether Saddam Hussein had tried to buy "yellowcake" -- uranium ore -- from the African nation, as British intelligence reported.

Wilson, who was posted to Niger early in his 22-year diplomatic career and was director of African affairs at the National Security Council late in the Clinton administration, reported back to the CIA he could find no evidence to prove the British intelligence.

Novak said that in the course of his news gathering administration officials told him Wilson was sent to Niger at the suggestion of his wife, whom he was told worked for the CIA. (Full story)

Sources told CNN that as many as six journalists besides Novak may have been given the information on Plame. The Washington Post reported Sunday that a senior administration official said two top White House officials made at least six calls to journalists and identified Plame.

Late Tuesday, White House counsel Alberto Gonzales issued a memo instructing White House staffers to preserve all documents, e-mails, telephone records and other items from February 1, 2002, to the present that involve Wilson, his trip and his wife's "purported relationship to the Central Intelligence Agency."

Penalties for revealing the identity of a covert agent range from five to 10 years in prison and fines from $25,000 to $50,000.

CNN's Jonathan Karl and John King contributed to this report.

Bush isn't Hiding anything he wants to know who it was and will fix the Matter.. Class Act!!!!

Hog
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