rck_1
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22 years ago
I came across this blurb in an article on CNN this morning.

Marijuana is recognized as a controlled substance by the federal government and its use for recreational purposes is banned in most jurisdictions. The federal Office of National Drug Control Policy labels marijuana, along with other addictive drugs, as having "a high potential for abuse," lacking "accepted safety for use," even "under medical supervision."

"a high potential for abuse," lacking "accepted safety for use,"????????????

So what about cigarettes and Nicotine?????
What this is saying is that cigarettes are "NOT" Lacking accepted safety for use.

What is this country coming too?

Happy Herf`n

plabonte
22 years ago
Same thing with alcohol. But there is to much tax revenue being generated from them to get rid of them.
rck_1
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22 years ago
imagine the tax revenue that would be generated if they legalized the happy smoke!!!!
johnfs
22 years ago
Yes, but would it be hand rolled, or machine?

Better yet what kind of regulation would be on personal cultivation?

Presently there are limits to how much one can brew beer and make wine. I beleive that for beer it is 5 gallons a week perperson with-in a household.
usahog
22 years ago
Imagine the Jobs you would be cutting out by Making it Legal... you have tons of special agents,police,fbi,cia,nsc,across the board 1000's would be out of a job tracking and keeping a running tally on the stuff...

you have to weigh one against the other and see what you come up with... in the mean time every time a Polititian wants to raise taxes the first thing hit is the Sin Taxes!!!

there isn't a tax on Sex yet but when they figure out how to do it you can bet a piece of a$$ is going to cost you double!!!

Hog
RICKAMAVEN
22 years ago
rck_1

it is no wonder the youngsters 15 to 18 or thereabouts
(IS THAT A WORD)don't trust anything the government proclaims. they see their folks tipsy or drunk with alcohol, and i don't mean over indulging, i mean light party drinking, so what is wrong with an occassionall toke. grass is not habit forming and for normal adults there is no constant craving for more. that it can lead to harder drugs depends upon the crowd you hang with, not the grass itself.

i think it is common knowledge that cigarettes, which are laced with all kinds of crap that the mfg put in, are the most addictive, over the counter and available to anyone, product made. it is not banned like marijuana, nor regulated by the fda or the dea or any other government body because "it is not food or a drug"

lie to your kids at your own stupidity and peril, you will lose their trust.
choner
22 years ago
Marijuana is not physically addictive, unlike Nicotine and alcohol. Its more of a mental addiction, which is similiar to so many things like food, sex, alcohol, etc, etc. You pretty much can't overdose on marijuana. The reason Marijuana is looked at like a really evil sin is due to cultural, traditional and institutional effects.

I hope no one thinks I'm a big pot head, I'm not. But I do believe if Cigarettes and Alcohol are legal, Marijuana should be too.

choner
cwilhelmi
22 years ago
Hog - maybe they can start using those 1000's of people for something more productive, they don't have to be out of a job... Marijuana should be legalized and taxed just like tobaccos.
Homebrew
22 years ago
Maybe the money, and agents saved on enforcement, would be better spent on homeland security. Then the agents could still have jobs, and our country will be a safer place. As a recovering addict, clean since Mar. 15th 1984, I can say that marijuana, didn't lead to my cocaine addiction, but it being illegal, introduced me to the people who had the cocaine I first tried. They were out of pot, and wanted a buzz, they offered me cocaine, and I never looked back. That is where the numbers, concerning marijuana being a gateway drug, are drawn. I don't believe marijuana, led to my cocaine addiction, but that because it was illegal, I had to go to the streets to buy it, and was therefore introduced to cocaine. I don't know. Just rambling my .02
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
usahog
22 years ago
Chris, that was sarcasim (sp) not an intentional thought about it...

tell me to lighten up???

LMAO!!!!!
Hog
plabonte
22 years ago
I read an article in Maxim magazine awhile back that talked about Marijuana growers in the US. Its very popular in some of the southern states and whole Counties are employed by the growers because there is no other work (or at least that pays so well). So perhaps legalizing it would actually lead to an increase in jobs...at least legal ones.
rck_1
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22 years ago
plabonte,
Would you believe that they tried to pass a bill in NC to make it legal for the farmers to grow hemp? It got squashed because most of the politicians that run this state let their religious beliefs control their political decisions. And most of them were not educated enough to know that you would have to smoke an acre of the true hemp plant in order to get a buzz, and then you`ll probably only end up with a headache anyways!!!!!

Happy Herf`n
Rob
Cigarick
22 years ago
Marijuana's illegal, but it's everywhere--just another way for the government to create jobs by diverting our tax money to pay for the jobs they've created. Cigarettes and alcohol are much worse than pot in terms of personal and public danger, but they're Big Business with lobbies and campaign contributions.

When is everybody going to realize that switching back and forth between Republiklan and Demoncrat isn't going to make one bit of difference in how this country is run?
Homebrew
22 years ago
Gotta agree with you cigarick,
I'm a Libertarian.
Fiscally conservative, socially liberal. Let them have their weed, aint no skin off my nose, besides, all those marijuana growers, help my buisness, especially this time of year, harvest time.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
RICKAMAVEN
22 years ago
i think what should be obvious, we all should be running the country.

we seem to have a better grip on reality. maybe there is something about occassional pot smoking that clears the brain.
tailgater
22 years ago
Why do all pot smokers want to legalize hemp?

As for legalization, there is little comparison to cigarettes since they don't make you high.
The comparison to alcohol is closer, but no cigar...

I believe in moderation when it comes to alcohol. I can go out after work and have a couple drinks and safely drive home.
The same could not be true if I took a couple tokes.

Sure, responsible use should be OK, but when you compare alcohol and pot, realize that there IS a difference.

And PLEASE answer the hemp question.
rck_1
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22 years ago
Tailgater,
Why do all pot smokers want to legalize hemp? Hmm, I cannot answer this question as I dont smoke pot.

Also, I was not comparing the affects of cigarettes or alcohal to pot. I was simply stating the reasons why it is deemed illegal by our government. It has "a high potential for abuse," and its lacking "accepted safety for use" If thats what our goverment uses to illegalize something then cigarettes and alcohal should be on the top of the list.

Happy Herf`n
Rob

Homebrew
22 years ago
Cigarettes don't get you high??? If you don't smoke cigarettes, take this test. Take a full flavor cigarette. smoke the entire cigarette, inhaling every drag. Tell me if you catch a buzz. I don't smoke pot, but I did for a couple of years. At that point, in my life, I didn't drink. I was the driver for the group, yes I drove stoned, though very carefully, and very slowly, as I could tell I was impared. Never had a wreck, until I started drinking, then I had one, and quit drinking before driving. It is just as dangerous to drive after 2 drinks at the club, as it is after smoking a joint. I don't smoke marijuana any more, and only drink, if I have a non-drinking driver. So I think that the comparison is fair.
Just my .02
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
Homebrew
22 years ago
By the way, on the Hemp legalization. Hemp is a reliable renwewable resource. There is more CO2, converted to oxygen, by an acre of hemp, in a years time, than 10 acres of pine trees. Over a 40 year period, there is more fiber, for paper making etc. created on one acre of hemp, than 10 acres of pine trees. The oil from hemp seeds, can be refined into a combustable fuel, which can be burned in a diesel engine, with very little modification. The list goes on. I do not smoke Marijuana, and I am for legal hemp, for enviromental reasons.
A little more of my .02.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
choner
22 years ago
Tailgater, why can't Alcohol and Pot be compared? Is some cases, alcohol is worse then Pot

Both change your physical and mental states.

Alcohol can be physically addicting and mentally addictive, yet pot is only mentally addictive.

Alcohol causes liver problems. The facts about the long term use of pot are still inconclusive.

Alcohol has caused tons of deaths on highways, and caused violence in our homes, streets, sporting events, and many other places. Pot rarely makes you violent.

You can die on alcohol overdose or alcohol poisoning, but none that I know of has died from a pot overdose.

choner
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