Thinking about Maurice's BBQ makes my mouth water!

Confederate and conservative...hmmmmmm.

That goes together like fiscally responsible and liberal.

Watch out DMV,
Don't want to anger Bush's southern voting Bloc. Most southern white supremicists, tend to vote republican, or choose the Republican party, to run for office. Do you remember David Duke, ex Clan leader, and Republican from Louisiana. He was almost the Gov. of Louisiana, but got beat in a runoff election, with Edwin Edwards, who was a confirmed crook.
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Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. Bush couldn't carry the south, without them.

Confederate IS conservative in the South, DMV. You live in Florida. You should know that.

Conservative means preservation of the old ways. The old ways, as it turns out, are confederate!

I know, I know...many conservatives have repudiated racism. Good. I'm glad. But Homebrew is right...this is a sizable and 'important' voting bloc.

By the way, Trent Lott loves these guys. So does Bob Barr. Maybe the two things go together comfortably?

John

I once read that most child molesters voted democrat.

Confederate = somebody that doesn't like the United States. Period.

Get off the soap-box Johnny, you might hurt yourself.

Fiscally responsible and Democrat=budget surplus.
Fiscally responsible and Republican=The largest budget deficit since Reagan...Hmmmmmm,LOL. X

X, enough with the facts already!

Sorry X, I missed the legislation that was introduced to enable that to happen by the Democrats, but I do seem to remember supply-side economics.

Hey DMV,
Come on up to Arkansas, I know a bunch of Bush Supporters, who would invite you to their next cross burning, unless you said what you just posted, Confederate= doesn't like the United States. Then the would brand you a liberal, and you might be the fuel for the burning cross.

Yes the national HQ for the Klan, is about an hour and a half drive from here, in Harrison, Arkansas. Most, if not all, of them, consider themselve Republican, and true patriots. My Mother, a huge supporter of Bush, is a member of the daughters of the confederacy. I'm just saying, you take away the white supremacists, and the confederate sympathizers, and Bush's support is non-existant, in the south.
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Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

Hmmm GTO65,
Irrelevant to the topic at hand, but an interesting comment. Maybe it needs it's own thread. But here it is just a red herring. Def. A Red Herring, is a propaganda technique, used to distract from an arguement, which one side is losing, by bringign up, a totally unrelated arguement, to draw attnetion away from a losing arguement. The origins of the term Red Herring, comes from fox hunting, when opponents to the hunt, would drag a red herring, fish, across the foxes trail to cause the dogs to take off on the wrong trail, thus spoiling the hunt.
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Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
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Not into the KKK thing.

Sheets are for bed, not for wearing around the neighborhood.

My point was the CSA was about seceeding from the Union. They felt that they were being represented and wanted to start their own country. Lincoln saw that this was a challenge to everything the USA was and is. So much that he sought to use military force to qwell this rebellion.

Now, some revisionists will champion that this was about slavery or some other misguided issue. They played a part in that, but they were NOT the deciding factors for an all out brother vs brother war that tried to absolve the USA.

That's exactly why, when I see that Stars & Bars battle flag that it angers me. It's not heritage. It's seperatist thinking.

Hey DMV,
I agree with everything you said, about the Klan. I also agree with you about the confederacy. But, it still remains, that they are the majority of Bush supporters, and Republicans, in Arkansas. And without this voting Bloc, no Republican, can carry Arkansas.
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Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S.The stars and Bars, don't anger me, but saddens me some. And yes, I have read the history, but also know, though it was not about slavery, it was about states rights.

By the way DMV,
If your ever in Arkansas, let me know you are coming, my humidor, and bar is open to you at anytime. Would love to debate in person.
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Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

Homebrew, I'd forgotten that origin of 'red herring.' Thanks for the reminder.

John

Look by you saying (Don't want to anger Bush's southern voting Bloc. Most southern white supremicists, tend to vote republican)

That’s nuts man, I was just pointing out how crazy that sounds. Most republicans that live in the south are racists) so I said most child molesters vote democrat. Not that it’s true, I just pulled it out of my ass, kind of like what you did on your statement. Why does some always pull out the race card? I just can’t stand that, sorry

This is just political rhetoric B.S. We have a two party system in this country and both parties pander to and include plenty of “scumbags” to get elected. So the “lame” premise here is the Republican Party has more scumbags than Democrats. Both parties have extreme elements that do fit in with “mainstream” America. Please give me a freaking break
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thank you!

Homebrew,

The Republicans have a hard time in “Slave States” like Arkansas. Arkansas. Is a poor state that has a large population that are “Economic Slaves” to the State and Federal governments. Here is how Democrats succeed in states like yours. Put out the message that the Republicans if elected will take all the free things you currently get from State and Federal agencies and the Democrats offer the only hope for protecting your “entitlements” If they succeed in scaring the people they continue to win.
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