65gtoman
22 years ago
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36062 


Looks like the republicans did.


"I support the troops just not the war" YEA RIGHT




TinMan51
22 years ago
65gtoman" After reading your post and then going to the story that you had the link for , I read the whole thing and was appauld at what is going on with this Lt Col. And like the hot head I can be some times I did send a statement to the Defence Dept on behalf of Lt. Col West. So if I don't post any more after this week it's becuase the Goverment got my Butt and Locked me Up. LMAO.. Things like this should not be allowed to happen and we as a nation need to stand up and support our service people our SONS AND DAUGHTER against the head line grabbing Politians....I know my Spelling is SH## again. LOL. this is just the HO of a serviceman's Father. TinMan
JonR
22 years ago
Yo TinMan51: You are correct Sir ! If he was in the Marine Corps his Commanding Officer would have shook his hand and said: " Well Done ". JonR
plabonte
22 years ago
If I were going to play devil's advocate here I would say the ends don't justify the means.

However, I'm not. Instead I'll say you have to do what you have to do and this guy did just that. Excellent job on his part.
TinMan51
22 years ago
I guess what gets me worked up is the arm chair quarter backing that is always done in times like these. I just can't abid by some one who has NEVER been under fire thinking that they can or ever will know what it is like and to have the responseability of others lives at thier fingure tips and Not take what ever action is needed to save those lives.. These type of people are better off leaving the life taking and life saving to those who are trained to do it. BUT don't get me wrong as with anything if that person is wrong and willfully & Knowningly commits an act that is not justifiable that involves a human life then they should stand accountantable.. It is a Very fine Line and those of us that have walked that line know what it is to have to make those choices but then again with those people who do that the rest of us would be looking for the East with our Rugs or bowing down to some other form of life that is not for to freely choose.. I guess what I'm trying to say it is always easier to sit back safe and draw conclusions than to have ever experinced what life and death really is about and have to make those choices. I commend Lt Col West for his actions and can only whish that My Son would have such a commander over him to help him come home safe. BTW Not only do I have a son that is active duty but I also have another Family member who is over in the same town this took place in , so I guess i'm alittle one sided about this. God Bless Lt. Col West. JMHO....Now Back to the Regular Program....TinMan
jdrabinski
22 years ago
Broke the rules. How do they say it? "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time." Send him to prison. We have rules for a reason. Obey them and this won't happen.
Sylance
22 years ago
And what I like best is he is prepared to go to prison. He is prepared to do the time as you stated it.

That being said we have rules for a reason, but can you tell me why? When we begin to serve the law and the law stops serving us... we lose common sense.
Gene363
22 years ago
Breaking the rules isn't good, his CO should have thrown away his report and told him stop wasting paper and to carry on.
SteveS
22 years ago
Common sense tells us that this man is no "criminal" who should be "doing time" as a result of his "crime"

But common sense is out the window ... this case is as laughably idiotic as the school girl who's in jeopardy of being expelled from school for having a bottle of Tylenol in her purse ... but, to our society's detriment, no one's laughing and both cases are being pursued as though they were somehow "crimes" ...

I would be the first one in the audience to be on my feet and leading a standing ovation for Col West if he were introduced in a settting where I were present and I'd stand in line to shake his hand ...

Do the time if you do the crime? ... give me a f*$%ing break!!!

usahog
22 years ago
I'll LMAO @ John for this one..
"Broke the rules. How do they say it? "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time." Send him to prison. We have rules for a reason. Obey them and this won't happen."

So Mr. I know everything and Condem my Country... What are the Rules of Engagement when it comes to Saving Lives in a Military Situation??? You always step way out there to add your two cents against the Military... but unless you can show your DD214 you need to keep out of Issue's pertaining to the Military...

Col. West Saved lives and if I were in his Shoe's I would have done the same damn thing... it is the "Yes Men" in the Military who are dragging this man down.. and the rest of our Military also... the "Yes Men" are the same one's who are making our Commander and Chief look bad also!!!!!!!

Hog
SteveS
22 years ago
BTW ...

I noticed in the story that the link (see initial post) leads to that there is a means of sending Col West an e-mail.

I took the opportunity to do just that and in my note, not only expressed my support, but told him that I'd like to shake his hand and that it was my opinion that he was the sort of CO I'd have been pleased to have my son serve under during his term of military service.
MDavis
22 years ago
First my credentials. DD214s x 2. I think everyone is missing the something. We don't know what his rules of engagement were. The article doesn't say. However, I assume he violated them. I agree with Bob Barr that this guy is not a hero for what he did in this instance. He allowed subordinates to beat the man and then discharged a weapon near the mans head to frighten him into providing information. These are the same type of tactics used on our POWs since WWII and from all accounts by the Iraqis against some our guys in Iraq. We shouldn't condone this behavior and make him into a hero for these actions.

What we should do is honor this man because of his character, courage and dedication.

He apparently knew he was violating the rules of engagement and did so without hesitation in defense of his men. He then reported the incident to his superiors and stood ready to face the consequences. I find that inspiring. This is a man who knew what he was doing, knew if placed himself and his career at risk but decided it was worth the risk for his men. He should be punished. Sounds like he will be. His career is over and he won't be leading men into battle anymore. That's unfortunate. He's the kind of solider I'd want leading my son or grandson.

I wish him well and believe that a man of such character will be just fine.
Robby
22 years ago
Mr. jdrabinski, the rules used to be one water fount for whites and another for everyone else. Follow the rules you say? Always a good idea?
TinMan51
22 years ago
Mr jb I see your still aorund trying to stir up things. Good thing we have peole like Col West to things going so people like you can talk thier trash.. Have a safe and peaceful night Sir Complements of those who serve reguardless of their safety or life so people like you can talk trash.. TinMan
I just know your going to slam back with some garbage but hey at least your leaving some one else alone if your in here doing it.. Bless The USA and The people who serve with out concern for themselves....HooAhhh.
plabonte
22 years ago
Well said MDavis.
jdrabinski
22 years ago
I condemn my country's actions in Iraq. And I condemn usahog for continually attempting to curb my freedoms.

Usahog, have you never condemned your country's actions? If not, and you've always been led like a blind sheep, you've shirked your duties as a citizen.

Usahog...bro, you need to stop worshipping the military. It is one job option among others. It neither makes you an authority on everything concerning foreign policy nor an automatic hero. This guy is no hero. I feel safe making that judgment. It is not only my right as a citizen, but something I am justified in doing as an informed and thoughtful person. Sorry that violates the military worship mentality of so many in here.
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
That's great Johnny, but if you want to condemn your country you could do a better service by going to a philosopher website or even commies hate the US website. You won't sway anyone!
JonR
22 years ago
Yo jdrabinski: You claim to be a citizen of the USA, yet you sound more like a citizen of Russia. If in fact you are a citizen of the USA why don't you get a meaningful job and help your country fight communism. JonR
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36116 

Had to pay $5,000! I say we pass the hat for this officer.
MDavis
22 years ago
JonR

You're kidding right. News Flash - Commies defeated and those countries where it still exists are starving to death.

We're fighting international terrorism now.
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