billyjackson
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 5:09:00 AM
drab or no drab, this guy is a putz as well.

RobertP...plagerism or not (I think not), your reply was outstanding. The real drab would have to agree that the historical trajectory of your discourse is pretty much right on. Good job.

billyjackson (real name), hopefully future PhD in Philosophy, Religion or something else JonR finds worthless (just kidding!!! Still on truce!!!)

Messier11
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 5:51:00 AM
Billyjackson, thank you for being able to "read" my post. You got it right. We are blessed to be live in a country that give us so much and allows us to make choices. Have a great holiday. Thanks again Billy.
billyjackson
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 6:11:00 AM
Messier,

Just glad I got something right!!!

Best wishes to all.

jdrabinski
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 6:17:00 AM
Robert, you need to cop to this plagiarism.

What would be the point of the short essay?

How did Hinduism develop a theory of opposites that was not a clash?

How is Manichaeism to be thought other than as a Greek tradition?

Why the mention of the USSR? SO suspicious...please, you need to cop to this plagiarism.

I find the thesis of this short essay appalling: it calls for an end to critical thinking. How can we have democracy without critical thinking? I suspect the author prefers a form of authoritarianism to democracy, actually.

THL
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Tuesday, December 23, 2003 6:22:00 AM

RobertParrott I am truly impressed. I for one, found your condensed version of 2500+ years of philosophical evolution insightful and informative.

jdrabinski, please don't go away or stop posting. While you may, in the eyes of some, lack finesse comensurate with your position, you do provoke thought and sometimes productive, often entertaining discussion. It's a boring story with no pro/antagonists.

Keep up the good work guys!!

DrMaddVibe
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 6:23:00 AM
When's the last time YOU did ANY "critical thinking"?

You're a blowhard with real soft skin!

THL
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  • Herf-A-Holic
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 6:30:00 AM
Well..... I exfoliate, then I blow the dead skin away! Thanks for noticing.
Charlie
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 7:59:00 AM
Whoa, Bad Karma all over the place. jdrabinski has resorted to name calling by calling Robert a "freak"! Maybe he should look in a mirror to view a "freak" and quit trying to pick fights with the entire board...reminds me of the kid with the big brothers who would always start something and then bring them in to take care of his mess for him! Prof/j/John/jdrabinski where is your big brothers to protect your ass?

Well, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and whatever your season's greetings may be (Screw the ACLU) and let there be peace!

Charlie

DrMaddVibe
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 8:56:00 AM
I wasn't talking to you THL...sorry for the confusion.
THL
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Tuesday, December 23, 2003 9:17:00 AM
DMV, I knew where you were aiming, but as a card carrying wise-ass, I couldn't resist. lol
jdrabinski
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:49:00 PM
I guess I could have avoided the name-calling and just been accurately descriptive: thief. Stole someone's ideas and passed them off as his own.

DMV, my skin is rather soft. But I do a lot of critical thinking, namely, thinking critically about you the cou de rouge.

HockeyDad
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 2:08:00 PM
Jdrabinski or to whom it may concern,

Are you going to cop to plagerizing John Drabinski's identiy?

Try something like this:

I am not John Drabinski.

I am: (insert info here)

My credentials are: (insert info here)

I claim JDRABINSKI hasn't been here for 6 months. I assumed JDRABINSKI's identity because: (insert info here)

Signed: Margaret Thatcher

Secret_Agent_Man
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 5:42:00 PM
LMAO Hockydad!! I agree...

(__{SAM}_____]]]]~~

RobertParrott
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 7:26:00 PM
John

You asked some questions.

What would be the point of the short essay?

A) To explain to the people here WHY you argue all your points and to show you that someone here understands why.

How did Hinduism develop a theory of opposites that was not a clash?

A) What?……… Read it again John!

“Yet there were many cultures which had developed the notion of clash between good and evil (Manichaeism, Hinduism etc.) quite independently of Greek thinking.”

How is Manichaeism to be thought other than as a Greek tradition?

See answer 2

But I guess I have to explain what Manichaeism is John seeing that you don’t know, this may help!

It’s not Greek tradition!

Cut and paste…. By the way!

Manichaeism

Manichaeism is a gnostic religion that originated in Babylonia in the 3d century AD. Its founder was a Persian of noble descent called Mani (or Manes), c.216-c.276. Manichaeism was long treated as a Christian heresy, but it is more clearly understood as an independent religion, drawing on the diverse resources of Christianity, Zoroastrianism, and Buddhism.

At about the age of 24, Mani received a special revelation from God, according to which he was called to perfect the incomplete religions founded by earlier prophets--Zoroaster, Buddha, and Christ. About the year 242, he undertook an extensive journey as an itinerant preacher, proclaiming himself the "Messenger of Truth," the Paraclete promised by Christ. Traveling throughout the Persian Empire and as far as India, he gathered a considerable following. He met with increasing hostility from the Zoroastrian priests and was finally executed for heresy.

The essence of Manichaeism was the principle of absolute Dualism: the primal conflict between God, represented by light and spirit, and Satan, represented by darkness and the material world. Human beings, created by God, were divine in spirit but they carried within them seeds of darkness, sown by Satan, because of their material bodies.

Salvation, as taught by Mani, requires liberating the seed of light, the soul, from the material darkness in which it is trapped. This is achieved by strict celibacy and ascetic practices. Those who would become perfect are to set three "seals" on their lives: on the mouth, to speak only truth and to abstain from meat or impure food of any kind; on the hands, to refrain from war, killing, or injuring life; on the breast, to render impossible the works of the flesh. This triple seal applies only to the elect or pure; hearers follow a less demanding code. The imperfect are destined to continual rebirth in a world of material bodies.

Manichaeism, which denied the reality of Christ's body and rejected the notion of free will, adapted from Christianity baptism, the Eucharist, and a third sacrament of remission of sins at the time of death. Because of its attitude toward the material world, Manichaeism regarded evil as a physical rather than a moral entity. Women were considered forces of darkness, binding men to the flesh.

The Byzantine emperor Justinian issued an edict against the Manichaeans, and Saint Augustine, who for 9 years had been a Manichee, wrote and spoke against this heresy, as well as described his own experience in his Confessions.

Manichaeism disappeared in the West in about the 6th century, although its doctrines reappeared in the teachings of the Bogomils, Albigenses, and other sects during the Middle Ages. In the East, Manichaeism survived until the 13th century.

- Asmussen, J. P., Manichaean Literature (1975)

Why the mention of the USSR?.

A) Apparently you don’t know who Hegel is, strange I thought you were a professor of philosophy. Why would I mention Hegel and the USSR together? Could it be his ties to Marx. Why would I even mention Hegel. Could it be his dialectic theories of logic or bait for you?

John, I just don’t get it, you complain when people give you short and to the point.

You complain when someone gives you something to ponder. I now think that you are a fraud.

The opportunity was given to use your intellect to refute what I believe to be your paradigm of debate. You on the other hand, have chosen to use cheap shots. I ask you, do you think that there isn’t anyone here with the intellect to come up with an explanation for your way of thinking.

Your background in academia has taught you to use ONLY critical thinking (I am right you are wrong) in trying to get people to see your side of any point. Has it worked? Not to my knowledge. Have you caused many hard feelings. YES. So John, just what is it that you are trying to accomplish? If you have come for an argument I say GET LOST that’s not what this forum is about.

From this point forward I will NOT be responding to ANY of your drivel. I would hope that many of the others here will do the same.

Robert

Danielg
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 8:33:00 PM
LOL I just read that jdrabinski was a "Liberal Arts professor"? Oh, God that's funny.
Danielg
Tuesday, December 23, 2003 9:04:00 PM
um......

The Cigarbid Bowl

jdrabinski - 0 Robert Parrot - 51

Thats 7 touchdowns and a safty!

DAMN DID HE HIT YOU BEHIND THE ENDZONE LINE!

DG

DrMaddVibe
Wednesday, December 24, 2003 2:52:00 AM
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This is the funniest stuff I've read in a LONG time! Why would one profess to be something they're not? Talk about having issues! At least I know who I am when I look in a mirror. I'm the same as I was yesterday, and I'll be the same today, and I'll even bet a cigar to anyone that I'll be the same tomorrow, God willing!

I am the walrus...coo-coo-ka-choo!

Sonny_LSU
Wednesday, December 24, 2003 3:20:00 AM
Great post DMV!

I would like to see CBID authorities look into who is posting under John's name.

HockeyDad
Wednesday, December 24, 2003 3:42:00 AM
Jdrabinski or the person using that account today,

All you needed was to be 21 years old and have a major credit card to open a CigarBid account. The account is free.

Have you ever posted on an adult chat room site under the name "Stacey from Sonoma: 18, hot and ready"?

I'm not saying you're into that sort of...I mean, I'm not passing judgement or anything...Just curious.

Signed: "Big Bubba from Houston, Texas"

Sylance
Wednesday, December 24, 2003 7:29:00 AM
This is like watching a train wreck. I know I shouldn't watch, but I can't turn away.

The poster formerly known as jdrabinski has totally lost it. I can’t wait for him to throw away the name all together and just have a symbol for his name.

So either jdrabinski has totally derailed or the person assuming his name has no identity of his own. Either one is a sad sad state of affairs.