Note that most of the sources are the AP but you never find this in the news. I wonder why?


SEN. JOHN KERRY’S HYPOCRISY, VOL. I, ISSUE 4
Disgraced Ex-Senator Bob Torricelli Raising Money For Cash And Kerry
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http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/DailyNews/fieldkerry-1.html , Accessed 2/5/04)

CASH AND KERRY FORMALLY ANNOUNCES
TORRICELLI AS FUNDRAISER

Disgraced Ex-Senator Bob Torricelli (D-NJ) Is Raising Money For Kerry Campaign. “Presidential Democratic hopeful John Kerry is letting former Sen. Robert Torricelli raise money for him less than two years after the Senate formally rebuked Torricelli for his actions with a political donor. Torricelli, whose rising political career collapsed in 2002 after his fund raising became the subject of criminal and Senate investigations, said Friday he is not seeking a formal position in Kerry’s campaign but has raised money for it. ‘I have asked people to send in checks,’ Torricelli said in a phone interview. ‘I have raised some money for John. I have known him for many years and probably have contributed to most members of the Democratic caucus.’” (John Solomon, “Torricelli Has Raised Cash For John Kerry,” The Associated Press, 2/7/04)

Kerry Is Officially “Appreciative” Of Torricelli’s Help. “Kerry’s campaign spokeswoman, Stephanie Cutter, said Friday the presidential Democratic hopeful was appreciative of Torricelli’s help. ‘John Kerry and Bob Torricelli served together in the Senate for many years,’ Cutter said. ‘Many of Kerry’s current and former Senate colleagues are supporting his bid for the presidency with the united goal of defeating George Bush.’ Cutter declined to address whether Torricelli’s role conflicted with Kerry’s message on the campaign trail that he has fought the taint of special interest money throughout his political career.” (John Solomon, “Torricelli Has Raised Cash For John Kerry,” The Associated Press, 2/7/04)

Ø Meanwhile, NJ Democrats Try To Downplay Torricelli’s Role On Kerry Campaign. “But Rep. Bill Pascrell, D-N.J., who is co-chairing Kerry’s campaign effort in New Jersey, sought to put some distance between Torricelli and the campaign. ‘What Bob Torricelli does is his business, but he has nothing to do officially with this campaign,’ Pascrell said.” (John Solomon, “Torricelli Has Raised Cash For John Kerry,” The Associated Press, 2/7/04)

TORRICELLI WAS “SEVERELY ADMONISHED” BY
U.S. SENATE FOR ACTIONS WITH POLITICAL DONOR

Justice Department Found “Credible” Allegations Ex-Senator Took Cash And Gifts For Favors. “With the Democratic Party’s slim Senate majority resting heavily on the reelection campaign of Sen. Robert G. Torricelli (D-N.J.), a U.S. district judge unsealed a Justice Department document today in which federal prosecutors said they found ‘credible’ the allegations of a now-imprisoned businessman who said he gave the senator tens of thousands of dollars in cash and illegal gifts.” (Dale Russakoff, “Allegations Against Torricelli Called ‘Credible,’” The Washington Post, 9/27/02)

Jailed Businessman David Chang Claimed He Gave Torricelli Cash And Gifts For Political Favors. “Also tonight, WNBC-TV, the local NBC affiliate, ran a heavily promoted jailhouse interview with [businessman David] Chang saying that he gave Torricelli the equivalent of $150,000 in cash and gifts in return for official favors. The report included photographs of receipts for gifts Chang said he gave to Torricelli - a $1,590 Persian rug and $4,600 in antique bronze statues. It also displayed nine canceled checks that Chang had written to ‘cash.’ Chang said he had delivered an envelope containing $25,000 in cash to Torricelli at his home. ‘Whenever he needs money, he called me,’ Chang said …” (Dale Russakoff, “Allegations Against Torricelli Called ‘Credible,’” The Washington Post, 9/27/02)

Oh I see the verdict is Guilty by association. A new form of neo-con-artist justice.

and where is Bush's $200 million campaign war chest coming from???

What the true hypocrisy is that you would think of posting a questionable attack on a matter that peanuts compared to the hundreds of millions of dollars in graft between our current administration and the oil company lobbies that supports our dependency on oil and murders our young men in Iraq.

Lets see.....Actual incidents of Murder vs questionable accusions of guilt by association involving pocket change.... Hypocrisy. You may be a nice guy but your post is hypocrisy.

More inspriation for Kerry supporters

Thanks you

db, neither Bush or Kerry are perfect.

Take off the blinders though you seem unable to even consider the fact the Kerry is no better than the current man in charge.

Here's the deal.

Up until the recent update to canpaign laws were passed into law, vigorously supported by John McCain, John Kerry and others, Kerry ranked 92 out of 100 on the amount of Political Action (PAC) money accepted in the US Senator's senatorial campaigns. Kerry has been one of the Senates most ardent supporters of campaign reform and that cannot be denied.

Kerry is accepting individual donations of $2,000 or less from people associated with certain lobbying organizations. He does not deny that. What the opposition does is to make that an issue, It reall isn't. Kerry has repeatedly staed that he does not accept any donations tied to obligations or on any conditions and the amount of donations he accepts.
IMHO, this pales in comparison to the institutional efforts on the Republican side producing donations that often seem to have obvious strings attached.

I can't afford to have blinders. I need to be very aware of all perspectives because this Novemeber is just too important.

Senator kerry for fifteen years received the highest amount of money from lobbyist than any other Senator. When asked what he did to recieve all that money he said: " I did not give them anything ". Whew I am glad he cleared that up ! Bawawawaha ! JonR

Kerry Took Cash From Chinese Military Intelligence

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/2/2/124555.shtml 

Senator Kerry is one of the slimest of all the politicians and he can lie with the ease of a Clinton! I hope all of you anti Bush folks enjoy listening to the crap he puts forth! Just do not vote against GWB for the sole purpose of change, make sure you know what pool you are jumping into, since the sharks are "bigger and badder" in the Kerry Pool! Speaking of special interest and payoffs, what about the "Big Dig" supported by Senator Kerry and co-heart Senator Kennedy!

Charlie

dbguru, you say:

"I can't afford to have blinders. I need to be very aware of all perspectives because this Novemeber is just too important."

How so? How will life be better with Kerry? Life will go on and the opposition will cry "FOUL!". He's just another in a series who says what he thinks his current audience wants to hear. Convince me. Make me a Kerry supporter. All that I've seen so far is a posturing Brahmin claiming to be of the people.

65gto....

This is site you link too seems to be even more fair and balanced in its news in the same sense that Faux.... I mean Fox News is fair and balanced.

Cut me a break. The story asserts because Chung supposedly hosted a Kerry fund-raiser and then some unknown bank reportedly wired $300,000 to Chung from sume unnamed Chinese military intelligence officer. The assertion is that some of Kerrys campaign cash comes from that. Which bank, How much of the $300,000 ended up in Kerry's campaign? The article doesn't mention that. Then it makes the connection to the Clinton administration's providing access to Loral corporation as a result of these unknown donations.

CAN WE SAY RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA OR WHAT????
There is no logic or connection in the assertions this aarticle is trying to make and it truly epitomizes the misleading and lying ways of conservative news sources!!!!

Got any other links I should look at??

a gay black man, wrote that paper.

THL....
I can't make you do anything.....
All I can do is the following
1) Work hard to support principles I believe in
2) Recognize that I convince people more by what I do than what I say.
3) Lead by example. Work to have a positive impact on my friends, my community and anywhere else I can have an impact.
4) Promote respectful discourse. Allow for repectful disagreement and make efforts to understand why someone else has that different viewpoint.
5) Shed light on disrespectful incidents on labeling, name-calling, character assasination and misleading propaganda. Make efforts to condemn such crappy behavior.
6) have a sense of personal confidence in my beliefs and what I stand for.
7) Be aware and make efforts to promote community awareness.
8) Have a positive faithful expectation that you and all of us are good people at heart.
9) Find areas of commonality upon which rewarding relationships can flourish
10) Have a great cigar every day!!!!

By ahearing to these principles I can only hope you'll have enough respect to show interest in my views by asking questions and appreciating my answers even if you don't agree with them.

Even if we had a very close friendship... I could not make you support anyone you didn't want to support. That's not my job.
If you really want to investigate John Kerry's views, I encourage you to go to www.JohnKerry.com

In fact, I really think (I've stated this before) that when people post propaganda from right wing or left wing editorialists and slanted faux news sources, they do nothing to convince those with opposing views. All you do is alienate. When I looked at that link from 65gto in this thread, it was such obvious half-truth and propaganda. I have grave concern that people could accept that level of journalism as a basis for opinion.
But there are those of you who read something like this link and it becomes music to your ears, preaching to the choir... OK so does that really accomplish anything???

Think about it

I sure wish there was more threads on Baseball, NCAA Tournament, Music, Beer, Wine, Scotch, Movies and the like on the miscellaneous site)

Race and Sexual preference have nothing to do with this

It could have been written by a pink and green polkadotted eunich. My comments are on the words and the failings of the assertions in this article.

Kerry has repeatedly staed that he does not accept any donations tied to obligations or on any conditions and the amount of donations he accepts.
IMHO, this pales in comparison to the institutional efforts on the Republican side producing donations that often seem to have obvious strings attached.

I'm glad to hear that! Kerry's brother-in-law made $902 MILLION rennovating Vietnamese port facilities after Kerry bum-rushed the normalization of relations between the US and the Peoples Republic of! Gee, why doesn't Fidel contract with Kerry's brother-in-law? then maybe we could get some ISOM's that aren't smuggled!

Cut me a break. The story asserts because Chung supposedly hosted a Kerry fund-raiser and then some unknown bank reportedly wired $300,000 to Chung from sume unnamed Chinese military intelligence officer. The assertion is that some of Kerrys campaign cash comes from that. Which bank, How much of the $300,000 ended up in Kerry's campaign? The article doesn't mention that. Then it makes the connection to the Clinton administration's providing access to Loral corporation as a result of these unknown donations.

CAN WE SAY RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA OR WHAT????
There is no logic or connection in the assertions this aarticle is trying to make and it truly epitomizes the misleading and lying ways of conservative news sources!!!!

db- I remember hearing about this back in 97-98. I also remember thinking that the whole Monica Lewinsky thing was analogous to taking Al Capone down on tax evasion charges, with so much blood on his hands. It was just easier to prove! The greatest pity was that the republican controlled Congress lacked the intestinal fortitude to see it through! Check out how many Clinton associates died under mysterious circumstances, and call Bush a murderer!I wont waste my time trying to explain (once again) why we need to be in Iraq. How many times have you been to the Persian Gulf? I've been four times, and will certainly go again within another year! That's curious, I didn't think I was joining the Boy Scouts, but everybody seems to think that it's some kind of criminal act to send us to do our jobs! That job is dangerous, that's why we get extra pay, and a tax exemption while we are over there. It all goes with putting on the uniform. So don't whine on my behalf! I don't need it!

OOOHHHHH this is fun. Left me throw some more fuel on the fire


Kerry Funds Raise Questions


Donations From Tech Firm Spark Controversy for Candidate
From ABCNews.com


By Jake Tapper
February 9, 2004


On the night of his victory in the New Hampshire primary… Sen. John Kerry … warned so-called special interests that a new day was coming.

"We're coming, you're going, and don't let the door hit you on the way out!" he said to cheers.

The sincerity of that claim, however, depends upon one's definition of a "special interest." … [A]ccording to survey of federal records by The Washington Post, he is the Senate's No. 1 recipient of individual campaign contributions from lobbyists …

ABCNEWS has learned of a story involving Kerry taking legislative action that benefited a campaign contributor: Predictive Networks, a Cambridge, Mass., tech firm …

"Typically, a politician says that those who support me just want good government and those who support my opponents are special interests," quipped Larry Noble, executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics.

Predictive Networks — now under new management and called Predictive Media — monitors what Internet and cable consumers are viewing and targets advertising accordingly.

As one might expect, such surveillance has raised privacy issues. In 2000, the U.S. Senate debated whether Internet and cable customers should get the opportunity up front to reject such surveillance …

Predictive Networks' CEO, Devin Hosea, met with Kerry and his staff on July 25, 2000. One day later, Kerry introduced a bill that would have enabled companies like Predictive Networks to automatically be allowed to monitor what consumers are viewing — placing the onus on customers to "opt-out" of surveillance if they wanted. …

According to Kerry campaign spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter, the bill, co-sponsored by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., had been drafted long before Kerry's meeting with Hosea. …

In February 2002, Hosea threw a fund-raiser for Kerry … According to [company co-founder Paul] Davis, the implied quid pro quo … made some executives uncomfortable. …

Hosea would not agree to an on-the-record interview with ABCNEWS … but he did deny that any company supplies or personnel were used for the Kerry event. Hosea confirmed that after the fund-raiser, a chartered plane took several company executives and others to New York City — but not before swinging by Washington, D.C., to drop off Kerry. …

That summer, Hosea hosted another fund-raiser for Kerry …

"Some of the investors, including our lead investors in the company, have very conservative political values and usually are Republican and quite conservative in their outlook," Davis said. "It was very surprising to see them writing large checks and bringing some other members of organizations in to write large checks for John Kerry, who is considered a progressive Democrat."

Why would conservatives give Kerry money?

"If you don't believe in Democratic Party values and you're receiving some kind of legislative benefit from a politician, the logical conclusion might be that the legislation somehow was tied to the money," Davis said.The legislation in this case, however, never became law.

No one contacted for this story has even remotely alleged that anyone affiliated with Kerry went so far as to imply a quid pro quo. …

Kerry makes a point of arguing that he has never taken any money from political action committees …

But all together, Hosea "bundled" more than $100,000 for Kerry. Bundling is the process through which an individual … collects many lawful individual campaign contributions and bundles them together …

"It's one thing to say you don't take PAC money, but again, when you accept bundled money, it is in a sense the same interest that's behind it – and often it's in much larger amounts," Noble said. "PAC money is limited to $5,000. The bundler can bundle together $100,000 to $200,000." So Kerry's claim to be free of special interest ties because PAC funds are verboten from his campaign "is symbolic more than it is practical," according to Noble.

Kerry currently has 32 such bundlers raising more than $100,000 apiece for his campaign, according to the good-government organization Common Cause. Lobbying registration records indicate these bundlers include a number of lobbyists …

So some question how much Kerry truly can claim to be a foe of special interests. …

CW - I respect and support what you what you do. Be careful out there and stay alert. I sincerely appreciate those of you who chose a miltary career and put your lives on the line. CW, you also have good taste in cigars.I respect and disagree with your political views. So that's where we're at and this is simply discorse, I'm not going to change you, you aren't going to change me.

Monica analogous to Al Capone???? An interesting sense of morality. I don't understand how one could think infidelity has the moral or should I say immoral equivalence to murder (Capone's tax evasion thing was a technicality, murder and racketeering was his true transgressions).

IMHO your assertions of Clinton being a murder need a hell of a lot more evidence for you to engage in such an accusation.

The reason there is a growing number of voters who consider Bush to be a murderer is the simple logic that he was responsible for decisions resulting in the death of over 500 of your comrades through his decision to invade IRAQ. As evidence unfolds people are increasing coming to that conclusion that going into IRAQ was bad judgement. And they held Bush accountable and are becoming very passionate about the need to eradicate the Bush administration. There are many other driving issues such as the economy, health care, veterans issues, unfair redistribution of wealth and on and on. Bush himself seems incapable of justifying his judgement on these various issues. His decision to invade cast doubts in more and more peoples eyes as evidence unfolds. In his recent Meet the Press appearance the man was totally on the defensive. Event conservatives are becoming disillusioned on issues like immagration and fiscal policy.

Some of you drink the Kool-aid and defend everything Bush does without a sense of awareness. Fine by me. If thats where you're at then that's where you're at.

At this point, personally, my view is that we jumped the gun on IRAQ and have payed dearly for it. Is that murder on George Bush's hands? I'm not sure that is totally fair. Also very evident is the scourge if Islamic fundamentalism a strong contributor to the circumstances... in fact IMHO any kind of fundamentalism that closes minds to singular intolerant destructive ways of thinking is a problem. We need leadership that truly understands the major war with Islamic terrorists is on the battlefield of ideas. We need more open-mindedness and respect. So far I'm unconvinced that the current administration has made an effort to engage in that idea war. This in my estimation is bad judgement.

I can forgive a pattern of bad judgement when the consequences are limited, like in Clinton's case with Monica. But those BJs didn't cost us (the USA) 500 lives, 3500 wounded and 200 billion dollars.

OK -- again, you're a good man, CW. I appreciate your discourse being of a respectful nature.

So we disagree on these perspecives and in politics and there's where its at. Its ok.

DB

But the idea of Opening up the ports in cuba..... Hmmmm You got a sense of humor CW!!!

After all this typing ... I could use a good ISOM Stick

dbguru.
You can make a strong case regarding oil companies supporting republicans, and using that clout to drill in areas you may not agree with.
But to suggest that we are at war because the President has connections with big oil is simply a fools argument created by media hysteria.

You then further "compliment" that drivel by calling our President a murderer by association.

Last I checked, the oil companies create the demand for petro products, they simply supply it. And yes, they certainly have enormous political clout, but most industries that push billions of dollars around daily have "clout" as well.

That doesn't equate to immoral actions, and certainly not towards murder.

If you want the oil companies to genuflect to us common folks, then invent a feasible alternative.
Let's face it, of the two parties in washington, the Republicans support true captialism much more than the democrats.
And only in a truly capitalistic society will tomorrows energy sources be created (or harnessed).
Why? Because if the government gets involved it would take years to produce what the public sector could provide in a matter of months.

This war is only about oil because Sadam used oil to create his wealth which created his power and which resulted in his sadistic lifestyle.
This war is NOT about Halliburton padding their pockets, although that is the likely result.

Stop the rhetoric.

And regarding this thread, I'm from Massachusetts.
I don't care for Kerry nor for Kennedy. But at least fat Teddy has had an impact on this state and our country (good and bad).
I don't know what Kerry has done in all the time he's been in the senate.
He's a joke.

Tailgater

Good post! Kerry is the biggest do nothing Senator in Washington DC, and he will be an even bigger do nothing if by some fluke he gets elected to the White House! These liberal lemmings will follow anybody who talks their talk!

Charlie