next time aye! Hope Patman gets to feeling better, and that Harleys dog is OK! We made sure that there was no heartburn with a herf at the FRA, and they have NO problem with it! Harly, you are eligible to join if you want to. Patman, I'm not sure about, but we can sign anyone in as guests. They usually have a pot-luck that anyone can buy into for a couple of bucks contribution during the NASCAR races, and cheap beer! Coffee is available, and if you are a member, set-ups are a buck. Does this sound like a regular herfing venue?