AJ_CHICAGO
22 years ago
I read opinions in this forum on Michael Moore. He may have got under some folks' skin, and maybe be a little brash, and may even do some things that seem "inappropriate" at times, but he's got BRASS ONES! How can you bash the messenger so much while totally ignoring the message and the subject of the message? It's all "THE TRUTH", and you can ignore it, or face up to it. It's not going to go away. We can't let it. Read on:
February 11, 2004 (67th anniversary of the Great Flint Sit-Down Strike)
An Open Letter from Michael Moore to George "I'm a War President!" Bush


Dear Mr. Bush,

Thank you for providing the illegible Xeroxed partial payroll sheets (or whatever they were) yesterday covering a few of your days in the National Guard. Now we know that, not only didn't you complete your tour of duty, you were actually paid for work you never did. Did you cash those checks? Wouldn't that be, um, illegal?

Watching the press aggressively demand the truth from your press secretary -- and refusing to accept the deceit, the dodging, and the cover-up -- was a sight to behold, something we really haven't seen since you took office (to watch or listen to the entire press conference, or to read the full transcript, go here).

More than one reporter pointed out that those pieces of paper your press secretary waved at them yesterday mean nothing. Even if they aren't forged documents, getting paid does not necessarily mean you showed up to do your duties. As retired Army Col. Dan Smith, a 26-year veteran, told the AP:

"Pay records don't mean anything except that you're in or you're out," said Smith. "It doesn't necessarily reflect what duty you've actually performed because pay records simply record your unit of assignment and then all of your pay and benefits per pay period."

Mr. Bush, this issue is not going to go away -- and I think yesterday's actions just dug you into a deeper hole. You're probably wondering why the heck this story won't just die. You probably thought that after I brought it up last month and then got slammed by Peter Jennings for uttering the "d" word, the whole matter would just disappear as fast as a bag of blow being thrown out the window of a speeding car on a deserted Maine highway.

But your "desertion" didn't go away -- and here's the reason why. You have sent countless numbers of our sons and daughters in the National Guard to their deaths in the last 11 months. You did this while misleading their parents and the nation with bogus lies about weapons of mass destruction and scary phony Saddam ties to al Qaeda. You sent them off to a never-ending war so that your benefactors at Halliburton and the oil companies could line their pockets. And then you had the audacity to prance around in a soldier's uniform on an aircraft carrier proclaiming "Mission Accomplished" -- while the cameras from your re-election campaign ad agency rolled.

THAT is what makes this whole business of your being AWOL so despicable, and makes the grief-stricken relatives want to turn away from you in disgust. The reason your skipping-out on your enlistment didn't matter in the 2000 election was because we were not at war. Being stuck in a deadly, daily quagmire now in 2004 makes your military history-fiction and your fly-boy costume VERY relevant.

You still have not answered the questions surrounding your National Guard "service." Let me repeat them as simply as I can for you (all of them based on the investigative work of the Associated Press and the Boston Globe):

1. How were you able to jump ahead of 500 other applicants to get into the Texas Air National Guard, thus guaranteeing you would not have to go to Vietnam? What calls did your father (who was then a United States Congressman representing Texas) make on your behalf for you to get this assignment?

2. Why were you grounded (not allowed to fly) after you either failed your physical or failed to take it in July 1972? Was there a reason you were afraid to take the physical? Or, did you take it and not pass it? If so, why didn't you pass it? Was it the urine test? The records show that, after the Guard spent years and lots of money training you to be a pilot, you never flew for the rest of your time in the Guard. Why?

3. Can you produce one person who can verify that he served with you in the Guard during the year that your Texas commanders said you did not show up? Why have you failed to bring forth anyone who served with you in the Guard while you were in Alabama? Why hasn't ONE SINGLE PERSON come forward?

4. Can you tell us what you did when you claim to have shown up in Alabama for Guard duty? What were your duties? You were grounded, so what did they have you do instead?

5. Where are the sign-up sheets that would have your name and service number on them for each weekend you showed up? Aaron Brown on CNN told us how, when he was in the reserves, he had to sign in each time he reported, and his guest from the Washington Post said, that's right, and there would be "four copies of that record" in the files of various agencies. Will you ask those agencies to release those records?

6. If you were in fact paid for that time when you apparently went AWOL, will you authorize the IRS to release your 1972-73 tax returns?

7. How did you get an honorable discharge? What strings were pulled? Who called who?

Look, I'm sorry to have put you through all this. I was just goofing around when I made that comment about wanting to see a debate between the general and the deserter. I had no idea that it would lead to this. And there you were, having to suffer through Tim Russert on Sunday, saying weird things like "I'm a war president!" I guess you believe that, or you want us to believe that. Americans have never voted out a Commander-in-Chief during a war. I guess that's what you're hoping for. You need the war.

But we don't. And our troops in the National Guard don't either. I know you see the writing on the wall, so why not come clean now? We are a forgiving people, and though you will not be returned to White House, you will find us grateful for a little bit of truth. Answer our questions, apologize to the nation, and bring our kids home.

Yours,

Michael Moore
[email protected]
www.michaelmoore.com

DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
I'm amazed that you put any amount of credibility tied to Moore. He's a liar by omission, a symantical pathological liar and has proven with every "documentary" (Do realize that a documentary is SUPPOSED to contain FACTS!) that fat ass big mouth has ever conieved up.

Didn't he back Clark? Who is it this week?

Very poor excuse for anything, but as your desperation drags you down with the inevitability that you have to vote for Kerry, I'd expect better. Leave the snide slandering to Rick.
bassdude
22 years ago
I can not believe that any self respecting person would post ANYTHING Michael Moore has to say. I even read his book Stupid White Men or whatever it is called. The guy lacks a sense of judgement and most of his brain cells.

What a waste of Oxygen.
RICKAMAVEN
22 years ago
DrMaddVibe

"fat ass big mouth"

well that certainly proves your pont about my snide remarks.
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
What pont is that Rick?

He's physically fit?

He's a humble man?

No, I'm standing by what I said. I don't care if you have a problem with it or not!
Robby
22 years ago
He is morbidly obese, and disgustingly ugly, but he makes up for all of that with his blatant stupidity and arrogance, inappropriate remarks, and rabid socialist left wing agenda. I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire, I would stand there and laugh while watching the flesh melt off of his fat carcass. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming...
bloody spaniard
22 years ago
Hmmmmmmmmmm, I think Robby's on to something and I think that I like it.

pensive blood
AJ_CHICAGO
22 years ago
I just see the same cover-up banter that always comes from the right fanatics. Pretend it's not Michael Moore saying it. Pretend it's Rush Limbaugh. It's still in "english". It's factual. It's "THE TRUTH" and no one can deny it. It all leads to a pretty poor character flaw for a president and a commander and chief.
Robby
22 years ago
You're right, he should have good character, like Bill Clinton? Did you vote for him?
JonR
22 years ago
Yo AJ: michael ( the whore ) moore made a million bucks off the backs of the Detroit Automobile Workers with his film and gave them NOTHING in return. The only way kerry will become President is if he steals the Presidency off of the Honorable George W. Bush, al ( the bore ) gore tried to steal it but failed. JonR
MACS
22 years ago
Lest we forget what "Slick Willy" aka Bill Clinton, did to a perfectly good cigar. We should all hate him for that alone.. hehehehe

And didn't we cover the service thing already? Typical liberals, grab on to a life ring when your sinking and hold on tight!!
RICKAMAVEN
22 years ago
DrMaddVibe

couldn't you stand by your remarks without stooping to a nasty remark about his appearance?
RICKAMAVEN
22 years ago
Jon R

Presidency off of the Honorable George W. Bush,

the correct english is from, not off of.
RICKAMAVEN
22 years ago
MACS(SW)

i must agree that ruining a perfectly good cigar is not a good thing to do. i wonder if monica was able to inhale it or blow smoke out of it.
Robby
22 years ago
"You're right, he should have good character, like Bill Clinton? Did you vote for him?"

AJ?
HockeyDad
22 years ago
AJ_Chicago,

While I was trying to research Kerry's legislative abilities, you stated "You guys don't get it at all. You're not voting for the "man", you're voting for the party and what it stands for and for the administration that will suround the "man"."

It looks like you've changed your opinion and it is now all about the "man". I have to hand it to you, very Kerryesque!

penzt8
22 years ago
OK, so round up every rich, privileged kid who was old enough but never went to Vietnam and ship his a$$ off right now. We'd have to rent a fleet of ships. I'm glad my generation won't have this issue to deal with when our age group starts moving to the white house. It's an all volunteer force now. How are they going to spin that?

On the issue at hand. It's always easier to look back at things and point out flaws but the people that were there at the time (the commanders and personnel officers) didn't prosecute Bush for being AWOL so he must have been able to BS his way out of it. Let's just say that military records ain't always right.



usahog
22 years ago
I can see why Kerry is proud of the Democratic Symbol... it is in form a JackAss!!!!!!!

I bet he has that symbol stuck on his Mirrors...


Hog
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
"Pretend it's not Michael Moore saying it..."

Ok, then such a worthless article wouldn't litter this site! You wouldn't waste your breath trying to defend Moore so you want to deflect ANY attention from him and make it seem like Rush would say something like THAT?!?

Rush has his differences with GW as do I but we're not grandstanding at the Oscars bleeting them out.


And Rick...nice try, but after your Coulter rant...I don't even want to hear it from the likes of you. You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. Don't like it? Don't read it. You certainly don't sway the way I think and believe. To think that you're THE higher authority of namecalling...that's a laugh after the all the hatred you've spewed about Bush.
RICKAMAVEN
22 years ago
DrMaddVibe

i know you are unswayable.

gee, just because i pick on one guy. there are so many more people i don't pick on.
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