m3swatson
22 years ago
Iraq's new Prime Minister Allawi held a news conference on Tuesday. During that news conference he switched to English to say "I would like to thank the coalition, led by the United States, for the sacrifices they have provided in the process of the liberation of Iraq."

Then President Bush had a news conference in Washington. Three times during that conference Bush said that he appreciated Allawi's words of thanks to the American people. As of Wednesday evening, not one major American newspaper had reported Allawi's remarks. NOT ONE! The only thing you could find was a story in the New York Times reporting that a Bush spokesman had said that Allawi had issued those remarks.

The Times was at the Allawi press conference .. why didn't they report the expression of gratitude? Could it be that when the new Prime Minister of Iraq thanks the people of the United States for their sacrifices in the liberation of his country, that story helps George Bush? I bet that if Allawi had made some negative comments about the American presence in Iraq that would have made the Times front page. Ditto for the Washington Post, LA Times, Boston Globe, USAToday.

It's the template. You don't have to actually lie in writing your stories. Just follow the stories. If the story would help George Bush, bury it. If the story would hurt George Bush ... run it until the presses melt down.
RICKAMAVEN
22 years ago
m3swatson

"If the story would help George Bush, bury it. If the story would hurt George Bush ... run it until the presses melt down."

sounds good to me.
dbguru
22 years ago
Nothing out of FoxNews either on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday. (at least nothing on their website)
Hmmmm the only report was from that liberal biased New York Times... Hmmm What is this world coming too.

Well I guess you need to rant and write letters to the editors who decide what is news and what isn't
xrundog
22 years ago
Hey! Even Fox is having a hard time putting positive spin on stories involving GW. That's a BAAAAAD sign!
MDavis
22 years ago
Man I get sick of hearing from the right about the liberal media bias. You've got Rush and Hannity and Savage and Fox and the Washington Times and the "vast right wing conspiracy". Get something new to whine about. Is the media biased ? Who cares. if you believe the media has a liberal bias you don't pay any attention to it anyway. Give it a rest!!!!! Get something new to blah, blah, blah about.
Homebrew
22 years ago
Hey Guys,
I cut and pasted this remark from the "FoxNews" Thread. It applies here as well.
I don't watch much TV, it rots the brain. I watch news occasionaly. I have noticed a definite Bias towards the right. Being conservative, it doesn't bother me too much. I have also noticed a bias to the left, with CNN. But if you want fair and balenced news??? There is NO SOURCE, that just gives you the news, without their own bias mixed into the spin. I have learned that you must check the "news" on all sources, and try and filter the spin.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
MDavis
22 years ago
Homebrew
Exactly on point. CNN has their "slant" on the news, FOX has theirs, etc, etc. Each of us has to listen to as many sources as we want or need and then use our own intellect to decide what we believe.
usahog
22 years ago
www.drudgereport.com

www.CBN.com

here's a couple sites that will list it no matter what and allot travels off the AP Wire.. although it might not be made public news all over it can be pulled from the AP Wire and read...

Hog
dbguru
22 years ago
MDavis,
Totally on target here... Well said.

Hog,
I do check Drudge and will attest to the variety of links but it is just one of hundreds of places to get stories and opinions.

CBN is Christian Broadcasting Network. Quite frankly I do not consider religious affiliate news sources as credible sources of news outside of religious news. I just think the process of becoming informed of news events and practicing religion are two things that shouldn't have too much cross-over. Don't get me wrong.. I read the Saturday religion section in my newspaper every week, even though most of the time the perspectives are coming outside my religion. But my news, politics, sports and entertainment information doesn't need to be filtered through any religious organization.

Don't get me wrong, Hog. It's a free country and I have no problem if you want to go to CBN. For me news coming from there is too often Christian opinion mixed up with news stories that I'd rather formulate my own opinion on. I don't need to be subtly influenced with subliminal religious opinion news. I'd rather read multiple sources and think for myself.

I really hope you consider more sources for your information, I'd respect your opinion as a conservative a lot more.
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
What religion do you practice DB?

This oughta be good!
Cavallo
22 years ago
i listen to NPR, which despite it's crunchy granola birkenstock wearer's reputation actually has been more balanced than a lot of either right- or left-leaning stuff.

primarily, though, i read news from the AP, reuter's &c. straight from their site.
Robby
22 years ago
How long will you jacka$$s (and you know who you are) refuse to acknowledge the fact that this bias exists? You pride yourselves on your intellect, but you do unspeakable damage to the perception of the same by continuing to say that conservatives are "whining" by requesting balance in news reporting. What's wrong with this picture? Are you all insane?
usahog
22 years ago
Db are you trying to convince me here ?? or seemingly trying to convince yourself??

I'm not trying to cram religion down your thoat as it seems your post is leaning to?? nor will I try to shove it up your arse.. when the day comes I know which side of the fence I'll be standing on...

now can we get back to the topic of the News Slant...
I could list many more links that are straight from the horses mouths so to say... and I have many times in the past... but news to you would not be the same news to me... I learnt how to sipher through the BS to get to the real meat of the issue... not take the first quotes from so and so who leans so far south or north they gotta wear a parka... and then run with their bias BS as it being Facts not their Bias Fiction...

Hog
m3swatson
22 years ago
Tony, I agree with you about NPR, when I was able to drive more that is the station I listened to...they seem to be well balanced.

how you doing bro?
dbguru
22 years ago
Nobody mentions Cspan and Cspan2... Great unbiased sources of information...

Hog.. Religion shouldn't have much to do with the news. thats why I object to CBN on principle and as far as the practice of my religion, it is private and personal and I am involved and devoted to it. Religion mixing with non-religious news and religion mixing with politics is anti-Constitutional and anti-American in my eyes and that's my patriotic opinion!!

I know you may disagree but you might as well understand that this is a real problem liberals have with neo-cons and it isn't going away as long as neo-cons make continued efforts to destroy the US Constitution's mandated separation of church and state. CBN's role in this anti-constitutional effort is well known.


dbguru
22 years ago
Robby... no need to address BOTLS as Jack*sses. Have some class.
I think most of us are in total agreement that bias exists. My opinion is that listening to more sources is better. Last night I watched or listened to about 90 minutes of right wing bias (Fox, Laura Ingraham on radio) and 2 hours of what I would term centrist or unbiased (Cspan and middle of the road traditional conservative (not-Neo con) local radio guy) and maybe an hour of the liberal stuff (A local radio guy). I also watched Aaron Brown of CNN interview Laura Ingraham talking about Reagan for 10 minutes (what kind of bias do you call that?? communists interviewing a neo-con talking about a more traditional conservative).

The bias issue is raised a lot more on the right but in all honesty, I see far more sources of right-wing bias that left wing. Anyway I still advocate that the best way to beat bias is to view news from all biases.. AND CSPAN!!!!!!

Robby
22 years ago
DB, I didn't name any names, were your ears burning? As for your inability to see something as clear as liberal media bias in the mainstream media, well, you're crazy.

Also, regarding CSPAN, I used to watch it regularly and I recall them instituting a "Liberal" call in line on their talk shows because they were getting so many concervative calls. How is this unbias? Hey, too many concervatives are calling and expressing opinions on our "open" line and not enough libs, we have to fix that!!
Robby
22 years ago
Oh, and BTW, DB... no need to address BOTLS as Fascist Nazis. Have some class and get a grip….
Robby
22 years ago
Don’t change that channel just yet.
Because you cry wolf when I refer to nameless

BOTL as jackass’s while you rant and rave
Leaving a swath of destruction in your wake
Overtly attacking anyone who doesn’t abide your
Leftist views

Meanwhile decrying innocuous remarks made by
Everyone including me.

(decode)
bassdude
22 years ago
I know this is unrelated to this thread but since bd brought it up the constitution calls for separation of church and state. That is it. This does NOT mean God should be taken out of everything. It means that the government can not mandate a religion like they did in England when our forefathers left that country. They came here for religious freedom NOT freeedom from religion. The men who wrote our constituion were religious men. Why do you think so many things from the time preiod reference God? I remember saying small prayers in school whne I was a child. They were nondenominational and should NEVER have been forced out of the schools. I am NOT a religious nut and distance myself big time from the religious right.

Sorry but this country was founded on belief in God and I do not understand why you ultralibs can not accept that.
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