pabloescabar
17 years ago
BORN IN THE COAST PROVINCIAL GENERAL HOSPITAL AT MOMBASSA , KENYA
My guess is, IF this has legs and Obama is forced to withdraw either Biden will run for POTUS and will pick Hillary as his VP as he said he would when he was asked before; or the DNC will put Hillary in as the candidate based on her almost tie with Obama in the primaries, with Biden as her VP. In fact with FL and MI she was ahead! Going to get interesting and we have front row seats!Never underestimate the Clinton 's! 😃
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Saturday, October 11, 2008
BORN IN THE COAST PROVINCIAL GENERAL HOSPITAL AT MOMBASSA , KENYA at 7.24 PM, August 4th 1961?

Reports quote information that certified copies of a Kenyan Birth Certificate (BC) for Obama were sent from Kenya , and have been received by three separate individuals. And that these documents are certified, with an embossed seal, and display the name of the hospital where Obama was born, as well as witness signatures.

Reportedly this BC reflects information filed Oct. 9 by Philip Berg. See item #18 on this docket, page 10, the relevant language of which, underlined in red, is captured here in a screen shot:

Barack Hussein Obama II
By Judah Benjamin,

It has been asserted by a number of sources, including Andy Martin, that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Mombassa , Kenya and not in Hawaii .

Philip Berg's Latest Motion to the Court is more explicit since it gives an exact Place of Birth. I must assume that Berg did not simply pluck the Location out of thin air, Mombassa has more than one Hospital, though Coast Provincial General was the best in 1961.

British Birth Certificates have a Standard Format which has been more or less the same since 1837 and they can only be challenged in a British Court . Kenyan Law is explicit and can only be challenged in a Kenyan Court . Indonesian Law is explicit and can only be challenged in an Indonesian Court . Be clear, if Obama was born in Kenya this is not simply a matter for the US Courts, or US Law.

If he was born in Kenya, and his parents were Legally Married [which on the Preponderance of Evidence they were, his father's first "Marriage" being a Tribal, or Village, Marriage, which was not Legally Recognized] due to the age of his mother he would NOT have been a US Citizen. The Immigration and Nationality Act 1952, 8 U.S.C. 1401. Sec. 301 (g) [Effective November 14, 1986] does not apply, nor does Title III, Immigration and Nationality Act Section 309. [8 U.S.C. 1409].

Unless he has taken the Oath of Allegiance as a Naturalized Citizen since he was 18 years old, and if he was born in Mombassa , Kenya , Barack Hussein Obama II would not be a US Citizen, period. The issue of whether or not he was Natural Born under Article II of the Constitution of the United States would cease to matter and he would need to be Deported as an Illegal Alien.

Impeachment as a Senator would seem not to be necessary since he would never Legally have been one, but Diane Feinstein and the members of the Senate Ethics and Rules Committee would be liable to Impeachment. So would their opposite numbers in the Illinois Senate and the appropriate officials of the Illinois State Supreme Court and Bar, so far as I can see.

If Senator Barack Hussein Obama II was born in The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombassa in Kenya at 7.24 PM on August 4th 1961, or at any other time, he is not a Natural Born Citizen of these United States and he never was. Philip J Berg, Esq, is correct, under

the Nationality Act of 1940, as Revised June 1952 and in accord with

United States of America vs Cervantes-Nava 281 F 3d 501 (2002) and Drozd vs INS, 155 F 3d 81, 85-88 (2d Circuit 1998)

Senator Barack Hussein Obama II would not ever have been a Legal US Citizen at all, unless he was Naturalized.

If he was born in The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombassa in Kenya any Certificate, or Certification of Live Birth, issued for him by the State of Hawaii is a Fraudulent and Illegal Document.

At Birth he would have been a UK and Colonies Citizen and in accord with the Kenyan Constitution he would have become a Kenyan Citizen in December 1963. He would not have been a US Citizen.

Alternatively, his UK and Colonies Birth Certificate issued in Mombassa in August 1961 could be a Fraudulent and Illegal Document. The two BCs would need to be compared. By this I mean the Original Vault Copy of the Hawaiian Birth Certificate and not the Amended, Post Adoption, Copy, Legally available to the Senator, assuming he was, as indicated by the Preponderance of Evidence, Adopted by Lolo Soetoro.

This case might also need to go through the UK and Kenyan Courts and becomes a Matter of International Law and Controversy.

Posted by Alan Peters at 3:40 PM
ALAN PETERS: For many years involved with intelligence and security matters in Iran with significant access at top levels during the rule of the Shah, until early 1979. Currently an Iran SME (subject matter expert), analyst/commentator, and multi-linguist
Cousin_Eddie
17 years ago
Quick question - If any of this is true why doesn't someone on the news run with the biggest story of our time? Say what you want about the liberal media a reporter is a reporter and this story would make them a star.
DrafterX
17 years ago
I told ya'll....
Cousin_Eddie
17 years ago
I will say what a weird time for Obama to take a few days off the trail. Is he working behind the scenes to fix something or did his Grandma really break her hip??
DrafterX
17 years ago
I heard he had someone break his grandma's hip.. just to make the trip look legit...
Goathead50
17 years ago
Shawn Hannity has been bringing this up on his radio show for a few weeks now.
Slimboli
17 years ago
So what ...

John McCain was born in 1936 at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama, to naval officer John S. McCain, Jr. (1911–1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (b. 1912).[2] At that time, the Panama Canal was under U.S. control.

FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Slimboli
17 years ago
Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Obama, Sr., a black Kenyan of Nyang’oma Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, a white American from Wichita, Kansas.

His parents met while attending the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where his father was a foreign student. They separated when he was two years old and later divorced.

Obama's father returned to Kenya and saw his son only once more before dying in an automobile accident in 1982. After her divorce, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, and the family moved to Soetoro's home country of Indonesia in 1967, where Obama attended local schools in Jakarta until he was ten years old. He then returned to Honolulu to live with his maternal grandparents while attending Punahou School from the fifth grade in 1971 until his graduation from high school in 1979.

Obama's mother returned to Hawaii in 1972 for several years and then back to Indonesia to complete fieldwork for her doctoral dissertation. She died of ovarian cancer in 1995.

As an adult Obama admitted that during high school he used marijuana, cocaine, and alcohol, which he described at the 2008 Civil Forum on the Presidency as his greatest moral failure.
Cousin_Eddie
17 years ago
Ok so has Slim summed all this up as nothing but a bunch of BS?
Bluedevil
17 years ago
Didn't some Dr. end up missing over this!
Charlie
17 years ago
The Clinton's would have gotten rid of all the incriminating evidence....it is going to come out on Obama and he will be exposed as not a USA born citizen.

Charlie
angus13
17 years ago
^ yuppers, and citing factcheck.org, which is known to be partisan and biased in favor of Obama, and their "facts" have nothing real to back them up.

lets all be sheeple and believe everything we read on line as the GOD given truth... Opps, I am in trouble now... I used the G word...
Goathead50
17 years ago
McCain was born on a US ship. That is considered US territory. Africa not so much.
jimmy@ctconnect.com
17 years ago
I've been punching at this for awhile on this forum and many people have kept arguing it over and over again. I've felt from day one that Obama was a fraud, a cheat, and a liar with nothing but bad intentions.

When (not if in my opinion) this is proven, then Obama should lose EVERYTHING he has to pay back the Democratic Party as well as his financial supporters.

I wonder if Michelle is still proud of America now?

Obama's assets should be frozen and liquidated, he should be deported, and criminally charged with fraud.

But of course Obama will claim that no one can assert that he can remember where he was born and that he was "under the belief" that he was born in Hawaii. His mother, most likely, got these documents drawn up in an attempt to prevent the father from getting custody due to him not being an American citizen.

Furthermore, Obama just recently "registered" with the Selective Service ... something he was required to do back in 1980, yet decided to neglect his obligations.

There are just so many ways that he, and others, should be held accountable.

I doubt if the Democrats will have a leg to stand on during this election as it was their duty to select a qualified candidate.

Obama has been groomed his entire life to pull off such sort of a scam. I believe his intentions were to put himself into a position where he could impose a disarmament of the American people and turn America into a complete welfare state until the banks were dry and our money was worthless - then turn us over to another, or other, countries that would have certainly imposed martial law to "keep the peace" in the new "Peoples Republic of North America" alonside of financially and politically enslaving the citizens of the United States.

Standby for racial protests and rioting... just like I said would happen.

God, guns & ammo, and non-perishable foods ... make sure you stock up now because this is only going to get much, much worse.
FuzzNJ
17 years ago
Jimmy, jimmy, jimmy. Hearing any black helicopters hovering over your house yet?
jimmy@ctconnect.com
17 years ago
McCain's father was Active Duty Military at the time of his birth and was under Permanent Change of Station (PCS) orders where he was assigned and that fact alone allows (did allow) John McCain to be born as a completely legit U.S. Citizen.
jimmy@ctconnect.com
17 years ago
... nothing on the radar ....
HockeyDad
17 years ago
Obama uses black Priuses, not helicopters.
Double D
17 years ago
They'll be sending Hussein Osama to Gitmo after he is is prosecuted for election fraud!!

LMAO!!

DD™
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