Kerry is making a good speech (yes I said that) ;however, he sounds like he voted for all the military appropriations bills that he voted against...including the body armour for the troops in Iraq! I guess his voting record is all misrepresented! NOT!

Charlie

Did anybody take the time to tell John how many of Heinz plants are overseas? I guess they do not count!
He seems to feel that GWB has moved all of our jobs have gone fleeting overseas, but not anything created by his own families holdings! Double talk, sure, but nobody will hold him accountable for his speech! Oh wait, Republican convention is coming in August!

Charlie

Charlie, admit it--you're starting to fall for that little horse-faced democrat feller, ain't you?
Common now...

just to put this in perspective:

HEINZ NORTH AMERICA


HEINZ U.S.A.
Established 1869
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

Factories: Atlanta, Georgia; Cedar Rapids, Iowa; Chatsworth, California; Dallas, Texas; Escalon, California; Fremont, Ohio; Holland, Michigan; Irvine, California; Jacksonville, Florida; King of Prussia, Pennsylvania; Mason, Ohio; Muscatine, Iowa; Northbrook, Illinois; Pennsauken, New Jersey; Phoenix, Arizona; Stockton, California; Westburyport, Massachusetts
Major Product Lines: beans/bouillon/cheese pouches/condiments/dry soup mixes/entrees/fine desserts/gravies/hot-fill packaged foods/ketchup/pasta and pasta sauce/peanut butter and jelly/pickles/pureed foods/relishes/sauces/soups/tomato products/vinegar.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Aunt Millies/Bell 'Orto/Bella Rosa/Chatsworth/Chef Francisco/Christina/Christoforo Columbo/Classico/Emma Bella/Heinz/Mrs. Grass/Prince/
6-in-1/Squeezers/Wylers Bouillon/Wylers Soup Starter.

THERMO PAC, INC.
Acquired 1999
Stone Mountain, Georgia

Factory: Stone Mountain, Georgia
Major Product Lines: cheese pouches/hot-filled food products in flexible pouches and cups/jelly/peanut butter.
Brand Name and Trademark: Squeezers.

PORTION PAC, INC.
Acquired 1989
Mason, Ohio

Factories: Atlanta, Georgia; Chatsworth, California; Dallas, Texas; Jacksonville, Florida; Mason, Ohio
Major Product Lines: jams/jellies and sauces/single-serve condiments.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Americana/Chatsworth/Madeira Farms/Pitch 'rpak/PPI/Salsa del Sol/Squeezers/Sweet Portion/Taste Pleasers Gourmet.

QUALITY CHEF FOODS, INC.
Acquired 1999
Cedar Rapids, Iowa

Factory: Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Major Product Lines: boil-in-a-bag/ready-to-serve frozen soup/sauces and entrees.
Brand Name and Trademark: Quality Chef.

CHEF FRANCISCO, INC.
Acquired 1991
King of Prussia, Pennsylvania

Factory: King of Prussia, Pennsylvania
Major Product Lines: frozen, condensed premium-brand soups in tubs and cups.
Brand Name and Trademark: Chef Francisco.

ESCALON PREMIER BRANDS, INC.
Acquired 1989
Escalon, California

Factory: Escalon, California
Major Product Lines: canned tomato products, including pizza and spaghetti sauces, for foodservice customers.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Bell 'Orto/Bella Rosa/6-in-1.

ALDEN MERRELL DESSERTS
Acquired 2000
West Newburyport, Massachusetts

Factory: West Newburyport, Massachusetts
Major Product Lines: fine desserts.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Alden Merrell.

TODDS
Acquired 2001

Factory: Irvine, California; Phoeniz, Arizona
Major Product Lines: gravies/sauces/soups.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Todds.



HEINZ FROZEN FOOD COMPANY
Established 1998
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

Factories: Ft. Myers, Florida; Massillon, Ohio; Ontario, Oregon; Pocatello, Idaho; West Chester, Pennsylvania
Major Product Lines: frozen entrees/frozen pasta/frozen pizza/frozen snacks/potato products/topped miniature bagels.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Bagel Bites/Boston Market/Delimex/Domani/Ethnic Gourmet/Hot Bites/Linda McCartney/Louise's/Ore-Ida/Rosetto/Smart Ones/Tater Tots/Weight Watchers.



H.J. HEINZ COMPANY OF CANADA LTD
Established 1909
North York, Ontario, Canada

Factory: Leamington, Ontario
Major Product Lines: baby foods and juices/beans/canned pasta/frozen appetizers/gravies/ketchup/mustard/red juices/relish/salad and sandwich spreads/sauces/soup/tomato products/vinegar.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Alpha-Getti/Diana Sauce/Heinz/Pablum/Scarios/Zoodles.

OMSTEAD FOODS LIMITED
Acquired 1991
Wheatley, Ontario, Canada

Factory: Wheatley, Ontario
Major Product Lines: coated appetizers/fish/frozen vegetables and fruit.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Leo D'Or/
Omstead.



ALIMENTOS HEINZ C.A.
Established 1959
Caracas, Venezuela

Factory: San Joaquín
Major Product Lines: baby foods/bouillon/ketchup/sauces/soups/vinegar.
Brand Name and Trademark: Heinz.

DISTRIBUIDORA BANQUETE, S.A.
Acquired 2001
San José, Costa Rica

Factory: San José
Major Product Lines: ketchup/sauces.
Brand Name and Trademark: Banquete/Columbia/Emily Gyor/Salsitica/Tipica.






HEINZ EUROPE

Established 2000
Hayes Park
Hayes, Middlesex, England

UK and IRELAND
Factories: Chorley, Fakenham, Grimsby, Kendal, Kitt Green, Leaminton, Luton, Okehampton, Telford, Westwick
Major Product Lines: bagel bites/beans/bean meals/can-making/cereals/chilled sandwiches/frozen and chilled desserts/frozen chips and potato products/frozen ready meals/infant formula/pasta/pasta meals/pizza crusts/pizza toppings/puddings/quick meals/reprographic and packaging solutions/single serve sachet condiments/soups/vegetarian frozen ready meals.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Farley's/Heinz/John West/Linda McCartney/Ross/San Marco/Weight Watchers.

H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED
Established 1917
Hayes Park, Hayes, Middlesex, England

JOHN WEST FOODS LIMITED
Acquired 1997
Liverpool, England

H. J. HEINZ FROZEN & CHILLED FOODS LIMITED
Established 1993
Dublin, Ireland and (1999) Hayes Park, Hayes, Middlesex, England

H. J. HEINZ COMPANY (IRELAND) LIMITED
Established 1996
Dublin, Ireland



WESTERN EUROPE

Factories: France: Douarnenez, Chateau-Renard; Portugal: Benavente, Peniche; Spain: Alfaro
Major Product Lines: canned tuna and sardines/chilled sauces for foodservice/chili sauce/cooked pulses/crushed tomatoes/fish spreads/fried tomato sauces/hake/ketchup/mackerel/
mayonnaise/pizza sauces/salmon/seafood salads/tomato paste/tuna pouches.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Guloso/Marie Elisabeth/
Orlando/Petit Navire/Uncle Williams/Weight Watchers.

ETS. PAULET S.A.
Acquired 1981
Douarnenez, France

H. J. HEINZ FROZEN S.A.R.L.
Established 1979
Paris, France

HEINZ IBERICA S.A.
Established 1987
Madrid, Spain

IDAL (Industrias de Alimentacão, Lda.)
Acquired 1965
Lisbon, Portugal



SOUTHERN EUROPE

Factories: Greece: Aliartos; Italy: Commessaggio, Latina, Monguzzo, Ozzano Taro, Rovereto
Major Product Lines: baby biscuits/baby juices/cereals/champignons/dairy products and yogurts/extruded bread/freeze-dried babyfood/fruit products/herbal teas/liquid and powdered milk/nutraceutical products/pasta for babies/pasta sauces and condiments/sweetener/vegetables/wet babyfoods/wild mushrooms.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Bi-Aglut/Dega/Dieterba/
Fattoria Scaldasole/Heinz/Mareblu/Nipiol/Ortobuono/
Plasmon/Weight Watchers.

HEINZ ITALIA S.r.l.
Acquired 1963
Milan, Italy

FATTORIA SCALDASOLE, S.p.a.
Acquired 1996
Monguzzo, Italy

COPAIS FOOD AND BEVERAGE COMPANY, S.A.
Acquired 1990
Athens, Greece



CENTRAL EASTERN EUROPE AND MIDDLE EAST

Factories: Poland: Miedzychód, Pudliszki, Wodzislaw; Russia: Georgievsk
Major Product Lines: corn/diced fruits/dry desserts/dry soups/infant cereals/kus kus/peas/quick-serve meals/ready meals/sauces and condiments.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Miedzychód/Pudliszki/
Sunar/Sunarka/Wodzislaw.

HEINZ POLSKA Sp. Z.O.O.
Established 1994
Warsaw, Poland

PUDLISZKI S.A.
Acquired 1997
Pudliszki, Poland

WODZISLAW, S.A.
Acquired 2000
Wodzislaw, Poland

MIEDZYCHOD S.A.
Acquired 2000
Miedzychod, Poland

HEINZ C.I.S.
Established 1994
Moscow, Russia

HEINZ GEORGIEVSK
Established 1994
Georgievsk, Russia

CAIRO FOOD INDUSTRIES SAE
Established 1992
Cairo, Egypt

HEINZ REMEDIA LIMITED
Established 1999
Tel Aviv, Israel

STAR-KIST FOOD D'OR LIMITED
Acquired 2000
Haifa, Israel



NORTHERN EUROPE

Factories: Germany: Seesen; Netherlands: Baarn, Elst, Giessen, Koog aan de Zaan, Nijmegen, Rijssen, Utrecht, Wormerveer
Major Product Lines: baking flour/baking products/
breadcrumbs/breakfast cereals/condiments/cordials/
desserts/pasta sauces/portion pack jams and sauces/printed cartons and labels/quick serve meals/semolina/soups and soup products/sport drinks/spreads/stews/sweet bread toppings/sugar decoration products/tomato products/vegetable preserves.
Brand Names and Trademarks: De Ruijter/Foodmark/HAK/
Honig/Roosvicee/Serv-A-Portion/Sonnen Bassermann/
Weight Watchers.

H. J. HEINZ B.V.
Acquired 1958
Elst, The Netherlands

H. J. HEINZ BELGIUM S.A.
Established 1984
Brussels, Belgium

H. J. HEINZ GMBH
Established 1970
Düsseldorf, Germany

SONNEN BASSERMANN
Acquired 1998
Seesen, Germany

KONINKLIJKE DE RUIJTER BV
Acquired 2001
The Netherlands

HAK BV
Acquired 2001
The Netherlands

FOODMARK
Acquired 2001
The Netherlands

HONIG MERKARTIKELEN BV
Acquired 2001
The Netherlands

DRUKKERIJ DE GROENBOER
Acquired 2001
The Netherlands



EUROPEAN FOODSERVICE

H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED
Established 1917
Hayes Park, Hayes, Middlesex, England

Factories: Rovereto, Italy; Telford, England
Major Product Lines: convenience meals/dry sauces/frozen desserts and soups/jams and preserves/portion packs/sauces.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Alveston Kitchens/Comexo/
Dega/Foodmark/Frank Cooper's/Serv-A-Portion.

HEINZ SINGLE SERVE LIMITED
Acquired 1995
Hayes Park, Hayes, Middlesex, England

SERV-A-PORTION
Acquired 1999
Turnhout, Belgium

Arimpex Industrie Alimentari S.R.L.
Acquired 1992
Rovereto, Italy

Comexo S.A.
Acquired 2001
Chateaurenard, France

SOUTHERN AFRICA

H. J. HEINZ Southern Africa (Proprietary) Limited
Established 1995
Johannesburg, South Africa

H. J. HEINZ (Botswana) (Proprietary) LTD.
Formed 1988
Gaborone, Botswana

KGALAGADI SOAP INDUSTRIES (Pty) LTD.
Acquired 1988
Gaborone, Botswana

Factory: Gaborone
Major Product Lines: dishwashing liquid/laundry soap/toilet soap.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Botshelo/Kgalagadi/Marang/Ngwana/
Okavango/Olga/Oodi/Snow Kiss.

REFINED OIL PRODUCTS (Pty) LTD.
Formed 1987
Gaborone, Botswana

Factory: Gaborone
Major Product Line: vegetable oil.
Brand Name and Trademark: Olivine.

OLIVINE INDUSTRIES (Private) LIMITED
Acquired 1982
Harare, Zimbabwe

Factory: Harare
Major Product Lines: baker's fat/candles/canned foods/condiments/glycerine/
laundry soaps/margarines/protein meals/sauces/toilet soaps/vegetable oil.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Buttercup/Cartwrights/Colman's/Fortris/
Heinz/Helio/Holbrooks/Jade/Luna Candles/Olivine/Perfection/Ricco/Soyola.

CHEGUTU CANNERS (Pvt) LTD.
Established 1992
Chegutu, Zimbabwe

Factory: Chegutu
Major Product Lines: canned beans/ketchup/soup/vegetables.
Brand Name and Trademark: Heinz.

HEINZ SOUTH AFRICA (PTY) LTD.
Established 1995
Johannesburg, South Africa

HEINZ WELLINGTON'S (PTY) LTD.
Acquired 1997
Wellington, South Africa

Factories: Barvale; Benoni; Wellington
Major Product Lines: dehydrated vegetables/sauces.
Brand Name and Trademark: Wellington's



HEINZ WATTIE'S AUSTRALASIA
Established 1998

H. J. HEINZ COMPANY AUSTRALIA LTD.
Established 1935
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Factories: Dandenong; Northern Victoria (Echuca, Girgarre); Port Moresby, Papua, New Guinea; Wagga Wagga
Major Product Lines: beans/condiments/frozen meals/frozen vegetables/infant foods/ketchup/meals/organic products/pet food/sauces/seafood/soups/spaghetti.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Epicure/Farex/Golden Days/Greenseas/
Hamper/Heinz/Imperial/Nurture/Ox & Palm/
PetDeli/Tom Piper/Wattie's/Weight Watchers.

HEINZ SINGAPORE PTE. LTD.
Established 2001
Republic of Singapore

Factory: Singapore
Major Product Lines: chili sauces/ketchup/preserved beans/soy sauces.
Brand Names and Trademarks: SinSin.

HEINZ WATTIE'S LIMITED
Acquired 1992
Auckland, New Zealand

Factories: Christchurch; Hastings
Major Product Lines: beans/condiments/frozen meals/frozen vegetables/infant foods/ketchup/meals/organic products/pet food/sauces/seafood/spaghetti/soups.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Champ/Chef/Craig's/Eta/
Farex/Good Taste Company/Gourmet/Hellaby's/Nurture/
Oak/Rival/Wattie's.

TEGEL FOODS LTD.
Acquired 1992
Newmarket, Auckland, New Zealand

Factories: Processing, feedmilling and livestock operations at Christchurch, Auckland and New Plymouth/Feedmills at Levin, Mataura and Nelson/Value-adding plants at Chefs Boutique (Auckland) and Coq au Van (Wellington)
Major Product Lines: NRM: animal health products/calf-feed/horse-feed/pig and poultry products. Tegel: fresh and frozen wholebirds/portions and boneless portions.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Collaid/Golden Coast/Moozlee/NRG/Peck 'N' Lay/Stockaid/
Sweetfood/Tabletalk/Tegel.

HEINZ JAPAN LTD.
Established 1961
Tokyo, Japan

Major Product Lines: curry/demi-glace/frozen potatoes/frozen meals/ketchup/pasta sauce/pet food/soups/specialty cooking sauces/white sauces.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Buono/CountryHarvest/
Ore-Ida.

HEINZ-UFE LTD.
Established 1984
Guangzhou, People's Republic of China

Factory: Guangzhou
Major Product Lines: cereals for infants.
Brand Name and Trademark: Heinz.

HEINZ COSCO
Established 1999
Qingdao, People's Republic of China

Factory: Qingdao
Major Product Lines: infant foods/ketchup/mayonnaise/puree.
Brand Name and Trademark: Heinz.

HEINZ KOREA LTD.
Established 1986
Inchon, South Korea

Factory: Inchon
Major Product Lines: chocolate/edible oil/ketchup/margarine/mayonnaise/shortening.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Chefs Cap/Heinz/
Napoleon/Solomon/StarKist.

HEINZ WIN CHANCE LTD.
Established 1987
Bangkok, Thailand

Factory: Bangplee
Major Product Lines: chili sauce/ketchup/oyster sauce.
Brand Name and Trademark: Heinz.

HEINZ INDIA PRIVATE LIMITED
Acquired 1994
Mumbai, India

Factory: Aligarh/Bangalore
Major Product Lines: glucose powders/infant feeding products/ketchup/medicated powders/milk-based beverages.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Complan/Farex/Glucon-D/
Heinz/Nycil/Sampriti.

PT HEINZ ABC INDONESIA
Established 1999
Jakarta, Indonesia

Factories: Daan Mogot, Jakarta; Karawang Timur; Pasuruan
Major Product Lines: chili sauce/fruit drink concentrates/
ketchup/soy sauces.
Brand Name and Trademark: ABC.

PT HEINZ SUPRAMA
Acquired 1997
Surabaya, Indonesia

Factory: Sidoarjo
Major Product Lines: noodles/noodle snacks.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Burung Dara/Heinz.

HEINZ UFC PHILIPPINES
Established 2000
Manila, the Philippines

Factories: Cabuyao Laguna; Davao City
Major Product Lines: banana ketchup/hot sauce/sweet chili sauce/tomato ketchup.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Jufran/Mafran/Papa/UFC.

HEINZ HONG KONG LIMITED
Established 2000
Wanchai, Hong Kong


I think this makes it pretty clear that a food processing company like Heinz is located around the globe based on where ever there are people that eat. Makes sense from a distribution point of view doesn't it. Not quite the same as closing plants, killing jobs in America and moving them overseas for the purpose of lowering labor costs is it.

Here Charlie...this will help you with your conversion!

http://www.demsextrememakeover.com 

Oh thanks, but fuhgedabutit! I am firmly a "Bush" man .....Vote GWB, reject the Hawkish New John Kerry! We all know that he was trying his damdest to sound more Republican than a Republican would have sounded with his speech! I will not be swayed by the false statements of this man! So Blood and DMV I have not moved to the Dark side, yes, I have been impressed by the presentations of a few of them, I have not been sold!

GEORGE W. BUSH 2004!

Charlie

Charlie,
I thought I may have been the only one who felt Kerry did OK with his speech.
I didn't watch the whole thing, but I got the exact same reaction as you.

If you listened to his speech and knew nothing of the man you'd think the following:
He was a life long miliary man.
He spent 4 years (not 4 months) in Viet Nam.
He strongly supports military spending and his voting record would prove it.
He will somehow keep large corporations here on our soil while simultaneously taxing them more money (ending "corporate welfare").
He will reduce the deficit in half over four years while providing $10,000 to anyone who wants to go to college (apparently the federal government should pay for our higher educations. And to think that I had to work two jobs during my summers. What a waste of time)

But I give kudos to him for his on stage persona. Despite the negative message regarding Americas economy (when was this speech written? Our economy is very strong right now) he sounded upbeat and kept the speech going.
He actually used hand gestures to quiet the audience in order to keep the timing of the speech!

Overall, it was his best speech to date.
If folks can ignore the content, then he did quite well.

I enjoyed his daughters speech ( the one in the silver dress ), er did they have the air-conditioning up to high or did she just get excited talking about her father. I thought she made two good points. If you got em flaunt em, LOL.

JonR

^ You know that you can get cancer sitting that close to the tv...LOL

Gater (can't get myself to calling you tail), I too thought that his performance was very good last night, but short of Mr. Casaba Alabama's.

Do have a feel for what his stand is on middle class taxes and on providing more opportunities for the small business community? Anybody?

blood

Jon

Have you no shame? LMAO.........GWB came out firing this morning in Springfield,MO.........and he kept it on the high road as JfK suggested! Just the facts mam, just the facts!

Charlie

Mostly good reviews from editorial staffs

Many Large-Newspaper Editorials Praise Kerry Speech
Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.)

By Charles Geraci

Published: July 30, 2004 12:50 PM EST

NEW YORK An informal E&P survey of some of the nation's top newspaper editorial pages found broad praise for Sen. John Kerry's acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention on Thursday night.

One paper that found fault, The Washington Post (Click for QuikCap), called the speech a "missed opportunity," noting that he had "elided the charged question of whether, as president, he would have gone to war in Iraq." And the Chicago Tribune opened with: "Well, not bad."

But other larger papers found much to admire. The Dallas Morning News, in President Bush's home state, said, "All in all, it was an impressive performance and one that should serve Kerry well in his quest for the White House."

The Philadelphia Inquirer said Kerry did a "solid job" linking domestic proposals to "family values," borrowing one of Bush's themes. "Overall, Kerry did a commendable, though not dazzling, job of giving voters insight into what makes him tick, and how he would lead," the paper said.

Though some pundits feel Kerry overemphasized his service in Vietnam, the Los Angeles Times is not tired of hearing about it. The paper said, "It's only malcontents who won't want to steer in the direction that he's mapped out. Kerry's skill at seamlessly drawing upon Vietnam produced a portrait of master and commander."

The San Francisco Chronicle admitted that while Kerry is not the most charismatic speaker, "he was clear and forceful in accentuating his differences with Bush. He succeeded in the mission of the night: He made the case that there is going to be a real choice in November."

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel provided one classic line: "If it's the national security, stupid, John Kerry demonstrated Thursday night that he isn't stupid."

The New York Times said, "Mr. Kerry has been criticized for a lack of specifics, but he did a good job of explaining how he'd fight the war on terror: by adopting a more aggressive homeland-security policy, reforming the intelligence system and refocusing diplomatic efforts on ending nuclear proliferation." While the paper cast the Democratic convention in a positive light, saying it "did its job" introducing the candidates, it criticized Kerry for not admitting his vote to support the Iraq invasion was a mistake. "It's clear now that Mr. Kerry isn't going to go there, and it's a shame," said the Times, which itself decided to "go there" earlier this month.

The Seattle Times said Kerry offered better "oratory" than his norm, adding that he seems "capable of becoming a strong commander in chief."

But the Washington Post found the speech lacking. "Mr. Kerry was right to chide Mr. Bush for alienating allies unnecessarily. But what is 'the job' in Iraq? He didn't say," the Post added. Admitting the speech may have been politically effective, the paper said Kerry "fell short of demonstrating the kind of leadership the nation needs."

The Chicago Tribune, while neutral, pointed out that there were moments in the speech "when you had to remind yourself that this was the Democratic nominee for president who was speaking -- such as when Kerry promised a larger military force, tax cuts, public school accountability, and a focus on family values."

USA Today said the Democrats' main goal this week was to "ease any qualms voters might feel about John Kerry's ability to lead the nation in these times of war and high anxiety. ... Trouble is, Kerry leaves Boston still not having formed in voters' minds an image of where he'd take the nation on its most urgent issues: the war on terrorism and resolving the mess that is the U.S. situation in Iraq. So far, his policies sound a lot like those of President Bush."

The New York Post was extremely critical. The paper said, "There is no greater concern that Americans have today than the War on Terror. Kerry showed last night that he doesn't understand this. In that limited respect, he stood tall in Boston and did the nation a real service."
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Charles Geraci ([email protected]) is a reporter for Editor&Publishing, a journal covering major newspaper coverage.

I think Kerry did a good job with his speech. Everyone likes to talk about the funding (82 Billion) like it was all direscted to body armor and the like for our troops, it was not. The problem most people had with the funding for the war was the there was no set allocation of the funds. Without any oversite I would not be suprised if the majority of the money went to Haliburton and B&R. I can see voting against a spending bill which appeared to be a blank check.

Oh and the all the ketchup ridicule is real mature!!!
You neo-cons focus on ketchup while the Dems concern themselves with what we can do to minimize the blood spilled by our armed forces. Hmmmm perhaps you should try a little blood on your fries to put things in perspective...

THE KETCHUP THING IS REALLY REALLY STUPID GUYS!!!!
do you think someone in Germany wants to buy $10.00 bottles of ketchup shipped from Peoria or $2.00 bottles made fresh in Munich. Is Switerland getting all upset that I buy American made Swiss cheese from Kraft or US made Nestle bars. Or is this too much nuance for a neo-con to understand??

Danny

well said!

Lashing out at anything that appears available is obviously the agenda. the right and the far right aren't very interested in any good ideas if they come from the left. It's all about tax cuts and holding on to their cash. I can understand that though. I have to admit I liked my tax bill better last year than the year before, and I expect to like my tax bill for this year even better. Sooner or later though, this house of cards that's built on the deficit will have to come crashing down....won't it?

how about that rumsfield -- he tried his best to kill allocations to the military.

btw, allocations that senators vote on is NOT line item stuff -- it's "can we have a total of XX amount of dollars for the military? yes or no." it's not as though senators -- ANY of them -- get to pick and choose what gets $ and what doesn't. don rumsfeld, on the other hand, fought tooth and nail to whittle away particular parts of our military's equipment. but s'okay. who needs body armor for ALL our soldiers? let mom and dad send their kid one! please. i get so sick of this b.s.

bloody -- edwards especially is a champion of the middle class. from what i've heard from kerry folks, his idea is to spread the wealth around in govt. contracts -- not just hand it all over to a few of the president's friends.

wonder why we're not hearing anything about all the misappropriation of funds anymore. what was there something like 42 separate investigations on $$ that, oops, ended up lining private pockets instead of going to what it was supposed to in iraq? if i were a republican businessman, i'd want to know why my pocket wasn't getting fed some of that there money! lol ah well. most of the gung-ho reps don't make enough money to get GWB's attention -- screw 'em, hey? "you can't afford me, but give me your vote anyway!"

The opinions expressed here seem somehow divided along party lines. How odd.

Oh really, How odd! Party line discussions and digging in to debate issues.........hmmmmmm, we need some more of Rick's "non-partison research" LMAO

Charlie

Cavallo, that's what Im "banking" on, as I hold my nose & vote for Kerry.
Small businesses are just looking for the opportunity to be able to bid on ANYTHING again. Dubya put a stop to that 3 years ago.

Hope all is well, bro.

blood