usahog
  • usahog
  • Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter
22 years ago
usahog
  • usahog
  • Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter
CWFoster
22 years ago
I may have to place an order just because! LOL
Cavallo
22 years ago
i'm LMAO because neither john kerry nor his wife own heinz ketchup! LMAO! they don't even come close to having a controlling % of stock (they share 4%!) ROTFLMAO! hoooo boy! LOL!
JonR
22 years ago
Yo Cav:

Interesting, where did you get those figures from?

Jonr
Cavallo
22 years ago
read all about it, jon:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp 

snopes.com is apolitical and is highly respected in getting at the unbiased facts and determining them to be "true," "false" or "undetermined."

they don't take sides and list their sources for the info they get. some folks seem to think that snopes is some kind of leftwing propaganda machine (how i have no idea; they're not biased), but they have debunked rumors about BOTH kerry and bush and have defended bush most recently about a damning photo from his college yearbook showing gwb illegally punching a rugby opponent in the face.

read it for yourself. do a search on "john kerry" or "george w. bush" for the straight scoop on both candidates and the rumors surrounding them.
Cavallo
22 years ago
from snopes:

"Teresa Heinz Kerry does not 'own the Heinz Corporation' — she has no involvement whatsoever with the management or operations of the H.J. Heinz Company, nor does she own anything close to a controlling interest of the company's stock. According to Heinz itself, the Heinz family trust which Mrs. Kerry inherited sold most of its shares of Heinz stock back in 1995 and currently holds less than a 4% interest in the company."

from the heinz co.:

"Neither Mrs. Heinz Kerry nor Senator Kerry nor any of the Heinz trusts or endowments — either individually or collectively — holds a significant percentage of shares of the H.J. Heinz Company. In 1995 the Heinz Endowments and family trusts sold a large percentage of Heinz shares in a secondary share offering to diversify their holdings. As a result, their current holdings are under 4 percent."
usahog
  • usahog
  • Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter
22 years ago
whats that got to do with how funny this ad is CAV??

Snopes does also lean to the Left... maybe just a slant but its not straight and narrow unbias info!!!

Hog
AVB
  • AVB
  • Aficionado
22 years ago
Hog,

Please list all the stories were this is the case and provide certified unbiased proof of same.

"Snopes does also lean to the Left... maybe just a slant but its not straight and narrow unbias info!!! "
Cavallo
22 years ago
lol -- hog, you are the FIRST and ONLY person i've known to have made that accusation against snopes. got a lot of uber-rightwing pals who would patently disagree with you there. i'd challenge you to prove that point. everything i've seen has been very, very even-handed, well supported and backed by unbiased facts.

they DEFEND bush even in ways not necessary. to wit: the "bush punch" rugby shot. not only do they explain it in detail, but they defend him by saying that in such shots it's very possible that the camera catches an innocent shot that just looks bad in that one, single frame.
Users browsing this topic