used to buy them good strong smoke, box pressed, 5.5 by 52 30 bucks for 25, dont know why ci doesnt offer

These babies are really powerful and well put together. Charlie

The Magic Mountain is the only one I really like. I've had nothing but problems w/ the Degaulles.

Palmas Delgado are full bodied,a little thin,with great construction and draw. 60$ for a box of 40.Can't beat it.