cexshun
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21 years ago
A recent article on cnn.com
http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/01/31/students.amendment.ap/index.html 
has some alarming revelations. For those not wanting to read it all, I'll give a quick summary.
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"when told of the exact text of the First Amendment, more than one in three high school students said it goes "too far" in the rights it guarantees. Only half of the students said newspapers should be allowed to publish freely without government approval of stories."

"When asked whether people should be allowed to express unpopular views, 97 percent of teachers and 99 percent of school principals said yes. Only 83 percent of students did."

"Three in four students said flag burning is illegal. It's not. About half the students said the government can restrict any indecent material on the Internet. It can't."
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So, why is today's youth so ignorant about our rights and what the government can do? Why does today's youth have no expectation of privacy from the government? I'll tell you why I think this is happening!

Previous generations were raised with a certain expectation of privacy. Yes, my mother always wanted to know where I was going, with who, and what we were going to be doing. However, beginning with the Columbine massacre, the lives of our youth has changed.

Parents are regularly encouraged to search their childrens bedrooms. Parents are encouraged to listen in on phone calls and read through email history. Parents are encouraged to spy on their kid's activities.
People, how can we expect our children to have any sense of privacy or freedom if we are constantly teaching them otherwise? If we think Jonny has a Playboy or think Missy may have started smoking, we search their rooms, tap their phones, and comb through their personal emails.

Perhaps instead of such an invasion or privacy, we should consider why our discussions with them may not have worked. Perhaps it's time for another discussion. If you raise your children to think they are untrustworthy individuals who need their privacy imposed upon on a regular basis, how can we expect them to uphold our right to privacy when it's voting time?

There's a line between a responsible parent and a micromanaging control freak. It's not even a fine line, but a very large line. If a parent finds something like marijuana in their kids pants while doing laundry, then a room search is justified. But honestly, how can we justify random spot checks and privacy invasions?

So, when your 60 and it's illegal to own a gun, your phone lines are tapped and monitored, email is passed through a government filter, your mail is being opened, and you have to have a track beacon implanted into your skin, remember that time you invaded your kid's privacy. Remember those days of protecting Jonny and Missy by being a "good parent" by performing random searches and communication monitors. Remember that defeated look in their eyes while you rummage through their most sacred and personal belongings and correspondence because you'll see that look in their eyes everytime they go to the polls.

Yes, I will always know where my child is and with whom. Yes, I will keep them from access inappropriate information on the internet and television. Yes, I will teach them why and not just give them the "I said so" excuse. And if I abslutely must, I may perform a room search if the evidence says I need to. Whoever, I will not micromanage their life. I will not impose on their privacy. I will not spy on them. Yes, it's your house, your phone, you have the right to do it. Go ahead, it's legal. But do not come screaming to me when you can't buy a Swiss Army knife without registering it. Don't complain to me when the government monitors your location "for your safety".
cexshun
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21 years ago
A note of clarification. Everything outside the stars is my editorial.
THL
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21 years ago
I think it may have more to do with a general lowering of educational and societal standards.

When my parents clamped down on me it just made me sneakier.
usahog
21 years ago
"Three in four students said flag burning is illegal. It's not."

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/Speech/flagburning/topic.aspx?topic=flag_statelaws 

47 of the 50 states ban the burning of the Flag...or desicration there of...although the US Supriem Court cannot get their Collective heads out of their ass's... Flag Burning by State Laws is on the Books...

If I was to see someone desecrating or burning the American Flag in Protest... I would lower myself to Their Standards and do my utmost to Kick Their ASS!!!!

Put some Boots and Uniform on these "Students" and give them a year of living in a hell hole protecting these Rights of America.. then ask the lil b@stards how they feel about the first Amendment Rights?? I'd bet a box of Cigars their additudes would change in about 6 months!!!!

Hog
cexshun
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21 years ago
Hog, that was the article's statment, not mine.

Although I must say, when presented by protestors burning the flag, I ask myself, "What would Jesus do?". Yep, he'd kick their ASS!
usahog
21 years ago
"Hog, that was the article's statment, not mine."

I understand that Cexshun... I was just pointing out my views on the thoughts of the article you posted....

Did you miss my posting ot Rambelings From a Retired Person??

I am hoping God grades on the Curve ;0)

One can only turn the cheek so many times and have their jaw wired or repaired so many times before enough is enough!!!! Back in Jesus's day it was more tolorable because they inforced their laws with stonings and death...this day and age when you are robbed or laws are broken it's "Arms up in the Air" and no one gives a **** no longer... just like your original thread...

Hog
cexshun
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21 years ago
hog, I was just giving you a hard time with the WWJD thing. Man, you're hard to make fun of because it seems you take all of my joking seriously.

And I was just making sure you knew it wasn't me spouting incorrect data. I agreee that flag burning should be illegal. There's much better ways to protest then to disgrace the symbol that allows you to protest in the first place. But I digress. I'm getting off topic.

*poke* *poke*
usahog
21 years ago
LMAO @ Cexshun.... No I'm not taking it seriously... it is hard to show expresions on a forum board... I made my smiley faces and such...

it was and is a very interesting article you posted for topic and discussion... and I responded in toe...

Today has been an A$$ chaser as far as getting things done yourself if it has to be done right... and kinda goes hand in hand with your article posted above...

more and more folks don't seem to give a rat **** about things....Unless it directly effects them... thus I made the comment toss them in a uniform and pair of boots and ask them again in 6 mo. to a yr... same apply's to just about everything from Berger King to the IRS... your going to find people who are doing the work of 10 in the office... and then the 9 that don't give a **** till it's inspection time ;0) Motto: "Pays the Same"

Hog
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