JECANFIELD1
16 years ago
Did a C&P from Gary Menelski's Blog on the Current CBID Special in case anyone is interested....

"Pioneer Valley cigars are made in the Dominican Republic by Tabacalera el Torcedor with Dominican filler tobaccos and a choice of either a Connecticut Shade or Broadleaf wrapper2. The Maduro Robusto measures 4 ¾ long with a ring gauge3 of 52, while the natural measures 5 inches in length with a ring gauge of 50. I did not particularly enjoy the Maduro, which I consider to be just an average stogie. However, the classic natural robusto was a very pleasant smoke, and is the main subject of this review.
Flavor
As is the case with many cigars made with Connecticut Shade wrappers, the Pioneer Valley Robusto is mild to medium in strength and flavor, and would be a great choice for a new cigar smoker. The smoke is very smooth, tasty, and even a little toasty. This cigar is similar, but a tad milder, when compared to another cigar made with a similar blend of tobaccos by another lesser known boutique cigar maker, CF Dominicana4. To compare with more mainstream cigars, the Pioneer Valley tastes a little bit like a cross between the Flor de Oliva Gold5 and the Helix Blue Tubular6.
Draw and Construction
The classic natural robusto cigar had an excellent draw, was well made, and had an even burn. The cigar did not require any relights or touch up lights during the 35 to 40 minutes that it took to smoke it down to 1½ inches remaining. The flavor was consistent for the entire length of the cigar. For comparison, the Maduro robusto did not burn evenly, and required a couple of relights.
Value
The Pioneer Valley Classic Robusto sells for about $4 per cigar, when purchased by the box or five-pack. I could only find them available online at the manufacturer's website. Although these are enjoyable cigars, there are several other less expensive brands made with similar tobaccos having a similar (but not quite the same) flavor. On the other hand, there are also several similar brands that have even a higher price tag. Thus, the bottom line is that the Pioneer Valley Classic Robusto is priced fairly and is definitely worth trying, but the price is about a dollar per stick too high to be considered a great value. I would skip the Maduro completely".
DrewEstate
16 years ago
I would try it at $1 apiece maybe $2
tribe77mac
16 years ago
Sounds like something on a had of a good ol boy riding a John Deere: "Pioneer valley cigars" get a free bag of seed corn with every box.
Thunder.Gerbil
16 years ago
Gary Menelski lost all credibility when he started going around praising the "predominately tobacco" cigars

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engletl
16 years ago
praising the "predominately tobacco" cigars

you mean there is tobacco in those things??? And all this time I thought it was cardboard

Who Knew??

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Thunder.Gerbil
16 years ago
I was trying to be nice...
ZRX1200
16 years ago
^only made the mistake of ordering there once....Not one aspect went well.
chiefburg
16 years ago
^ Hey - you can get some great cigars there at $43.00 each.......I saw the ad......
Stinkdyr
16 years ago
Those Pioneers are good value at $2.
QMPASH
10 years ago
I used to smoke these on a regular basis until I purchased a bundle with an asbestos wrapper. Had a hard time lighting it and keeping it burning. I might as well have lit these cigars with dollar bills. Can't afford to waste my money no matter how inexpensive the cigar is. 👎
tonygraz
10 years ago
Somebody told me they were good a few years ago, so I tried them. Didn't care much for them.
QMPASH
10 years ago
They have changed Tony and not for the better.
tonygraz
10 years ago
Well, if they got worse I suppose I would really dislike them now. I looked at my cigar comments and noted back then they were rather soft or loosely rolled. It may have been longer than a few years ago that I smoked them.
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