This just made my heart sink to my stomach. The question that entered my mind right away is "what is going on with our military leadership?" This just really hit me as a very low and dirty way to treat his survivors and maybe get an extra bit of publicity out of the way he was being portrayed as a hero. When I combine this type of treatment of people with how people were mistreated at Abu Gharib, it makes me question our leadership even more.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050504/NEWS06/505040478/1012/NEWS06 

Nation in brief

Report: Army knew how Pat Tillman died early on

Washington -- Army officials knew within days of Pat Tillman's death that the former NFL player had been killed by fellow Rangers during a patrol in Afghanistan but did not inform his family and the public for weeks, The Washington Post reported.

A new Army report shows that Gen. John P. Abizaid, the theater commander in Afghanistan, and other top Army officials were aware an investigation had determined the death was caused by an act of "gross negligence" four days before a nationally televised memorial service, the Post reported after reviewing nearly 2,000 pages of documents it had obtained.

The Post reported on its online edition Tuesday night that troops on the scene said they were immediately sure Tillman was killed by a barrage of American bullets. The documents show that officers erroneously reported that Tillman was killed by enemy fire, destroyed critical evidence and initially concealed the truth from his brother, also an Army Ranger, who was near the attack.

Friendly fire is a hard one to take no matter when?

Charlie

mistreated at abu gharib?

Cry me a river.

Sorry if that's insensitive, but that's how I feel and I'm not ashamed of it.

I believe those responsible were indeed wrong, and deserve to be punished accordingly. But the "mistreatment" was nothing more than hazing.

If an American were in the custody of an enemy militant group, and was fed and sheltered, but was put through a little humiliation, we would not be shocked and outraged. We'd be thankful they weren't murdered or starved to death.

Yeah, Thom ... it made my heart sink as well ... but even as time goes on, what political cartoonist Ted Rall did is still disturbing. At first, I was angry at this @ss ... now I am just perplexed at why he made fun of such an Honorable Man.

Let me try to be more clear; I just thought it was terrible to treat this man's death in this way. In my mind I linked the Abu Gharib and this Tillman issue as abuses to people in general. I really didn't and still don't want to discuss Abu Gharib. Just that, to me, it's becoming indicative of current military leadership.

you guys lost me with the reference to abu gharib and to cartoonist ted rall.

i have not seen any cartoon by rall that has anything to do with pat tillman.

Rick, Rall was the cartoonist who made fun of Tillmans death back when it happened...

this is nothing new in the form of cover-ups by the DOD...

no matter how his death... he still went out doing what he felt was the right thing to do in his eye's... it is sad that the Military tried to cover the whole thing up on the onset...

"Threadjack On"

you wanna read something thats been going on in the Military since the Agent Orange problems in Veitnam??

http://forums.perseusbooksgroup.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=2 

check out the book "Vaccine-A" coming to a local doctors office near you soon... Homeland Security (Bioshield Project)

http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/2005_5_3.html#FEF1E57A 

It is Deny Deny Deny.... Silent Death to Soldiers... and now they want to use these same Vaccines on Civilian Population at your taxpayers expense?? wait until your medical bills go through the roof... who's getting rich off these money's??

"Threadjack Off"

Hog

usahog

i have been on top of the info for a long time.

i was lucky. i got my gi home loan at 3% in 1962, a ew years of college in the late 50's, and i get a few benefits from the va.

now, when soldiers return from action, they are treated as though they were the enemy.

remember what ann couter said about the triple amputee that was serving as the head of the va. i won't repeat it. i don't want to upset her fans on the board.

but eventually he will.

JonR

http://asmallvictory.net/archives/006657.html 

http://www.rall.com/2004_05_01_archive.html 

Rick ... when I see soldiers on leave going home ... they get a 1st class seat from me, and it is an unwritten policy ... if there are seats available, and sometimes when they aren't ... they go up front, instead of the back of the airplane . . . And, with a straight forward, Welcome Home, Soldier.

Yo jetblasted:

The maven just makes up lies to suit his own needs, most likely to feel important.

JonR

Rick,

How dare you say that soldiers aren't treated as good as they should be when they come home. And how dare for you to say that you bought a house on the GI Bill!

LIES LIES LIES AND MORE LIES I TELL YOU!!!!!

Liar Liar pants on fire! None of that is true. I know it.

Jet,

You're a good man. Thanks for doing what you do for them.

JonR,

Shut the f*ck up, no one listens to you. Can't you figure it out? Nobody ever responds to anything you say, they just ignore you like a spoiled child hoping you will go away. Think honestly, besides myself, has anyone EVER responded to anything you've ever said? Be honest with yourself? Is that why you love me so much? I'm the only one that gives you attention. Now I get it. Okay, back to ignoring you now....go ahead and post your retort....bye.

Yo adgloomi:

Are you experiencing cramps and bloating, take two midols and call me in the morning.

Dr. JonR

Ps: Also for your diarrhea of the mouth may I suggest Elmers glue, a cup full shoud be sufficient.