TrannyMk
Tuesday, May 17, 2005 7:58:00 PM
The Democrats are using very questionable tactics in elections. I recieved this letter about serious allegations in the Washington state Governor election of 2004. Please read this.

Dear Michael,

More and more reports are emerging of the extent to which Democrats were willing to go to try to influence the 2004 election.

Well, their tactics worked in Washington State.

Our Republican candidate for Governor, Dino Rossi, actually won the election. Then he won the recount.

Then Democrat-controlled King County "found" 566 new votes just in time for the second recount, enough to overturn the results of Election Day and the first recount.

The new result? Dino Rossi "lost" by 129 votes. But consider the following facts in Washington state;

943 felons illegally voted

49 dead people voted

3 people voted in Washington and another state

2 illegal aliens voted

12 people voted multiple times

174 provisional votes were counted but later found to be cast people who had already voted or were unregistered

Also, at least another 1,600 ballots are still in question:

875 more absentee votes were cast in King County than there were absentee voters

95 more ballots in King County and 50 ballots in Whitman County were "found" after both recounts, and have never been counted

At least 660 provisional ballots were improperly counted in King County.

Dino Rossi is fighting, and voters of good conscience from across this country should stand with him. For more info on Dino Rossi and his ongoing fight, please go to www.dinorossi.com.

Sincerely,

Michael DuHaime

RNC Political Director

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What's your take???

Mike

lukin
Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:01:00 PM
sounds like a decent Chris Farley/David Spade comedy!!
uncleb
Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:12:00 PM
Sounds like politicsa as usual.. from both sides.
adroomi
Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:45:00 PM
Tranny,

Here's my non-biased, totally commie pinko take on the whole thing:

This phony "non-partisan" "voting rights" group was recently created by Bush/Cheney/RNC official.

In the email that RNC Director, DuHaime is mailing out, the readers are pointed to the 31 page hoax report that was created by the three day old news-like, self-proclaimed, tax-exempt "voting rights group," or the American Center for Voting Rights (ACVR), as they have named themselves.

The ACVR is anything but "non-partisan" and their so-far known ringleaders are actually Mark F. (Thor) Hearne, the National Counsel for Bush/Cheney '04 Inc. and his partner-in-crime Jim ****, the RNC's Communications Director.

The ACVR report was presented by the GOP front group to Congress in a U.S. House Adminstrative Committee hearing on the Election Mess in Ohio. The then-three-day old group, masquerading as a "voting rights" organization, was the only such group called as witnesses in the hearings convened by the committee's Chairman, Rep. Bob Ney.

As well, the creation of the ACVR seems to be smartly-timed with the creation of a supposedly "bi-partisan" blue-ribbon commission convened to study and recommend solutions for Electoral Problems in 2004. The Commission was seated in secret, announced on Thursday at 2pm, and lauded in a Press Release published by ACVR just 24 minutes later!

The commission, as announced, is set to be co-chaired by James A. Baker, III, the mastermind and architect of the 2000 Bush/Cheney strategy to ensure that votes were not counted in the state of Florida. The other co-chair is former-President Jimmy Carter who led a similar commission with respected elder statesman, former-President Gerald Ford after the 2000 Election debacle led by Baker on behalf of the Bush Family.

The RNC email, sent to believers on Tuesday, described the ACVR report as "documenting massive amounts of voter intimidation by Democrats and their third-party allies."

Of course, the report doesn't. Neither does it document the thousands of verified instances of real election fraud, irregularities, intimidation, disenfranchisment, miscounted and uncounted votes that occurred in Ohio and elsewhere in the last general election. Many of the real documented reports of evidence of went actually went wrong last November are contained in a 102-page report submitted to Congress after months of investigation by the minority staff of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee.

But in GOP Land, where black is white, wrong is right and where Republicans seem to have divorced themselves from reality...simply saying something makes it so. The Email and the link to the report is even now being circulated widely on Rightwing blogs and "centrist" newspapers and news services.

I may be accussed of being a commie, but it's become clear that the very creation of the ACVR is part of a high-level coordinated strategy to deflect from the very real and anti-democratic activities that took place on Election Day 2004. Activities which are receiving more and more attention as the irregularities of the general election are becoming more and more familiar to Americans.

The emergence of this group and their smoke-screen report occurred just in time for them to testify before the House committee.

But perhaps even more sinister, is that the emergence of this group from nowhere seems to have been well-coordinated with the newly announced Baker/Carter Blue-Ribbon Commission convened (by organizations still-unkown) to investigate and report on Election 2004 problems and solutions.

The ACVR, in fact, was the first known group to trumpet the creation of the newly seated Commission, posting a News Release in support of it just hours after the announcement of the Commission's existence hit the news wires.

The first public announcement of this Commission that I've been able to find, occurred via U.S. Newswire (a press release service) on Thursday, March 24 at 2:00pm ET.

Just 24 minutes later, on the same U.S. Newswire, a statement by Hearne lauding the commission appeared at 2:24pm ET.

The Reuters news service picked up the story 3 hours after Hearne's release, while AP and Bloomberg didn't even post the story until the next day (along with CNN, ABC and all the rest).

The evidence would seem to clearly indicate that Hearne has the inside track on this newly formed commission. None of the real Voting Rights or Election Reform groups that we've spoken with seem to have heard anything about this commission prior to Hearne's statement.

The co-chairs of the Baker/Carter Commission are former President Jimmy Carter, and current-Bush Family loyalist and long-time clean-up man, James A. Baker, III.

Baker's position as co-chair of a commission convened reportedly to improve inclusiveness in the election process, has been derided by real voting rights organization Velvet Revolution (VR) due to Baker's dilligent work assuring that votes of Americans would not be counted in Florida during the 2000 Bush/Cheney Election debacle. VR has called for the immediate removal of Baker from the commission.

The most interesting part however is that the address listed as their headquarters is 5029 Macomb St Nw in DC and is a lovely residential area near American University. Property tax records list it as owned by a Kevin McDonnell who just bought it in December of 2004 for 1.7 million. The records indicate that the property is currently receiving tax releif through the homestead deduction program. One must be domiciled in the district or the property must be the principle residence to get the credit. I wonder if Mr. McDonnell shares a house with Mr. **** or if it is a rental?

hummm.....right or wrong with the allegations, I know one thing for sure. The leaders of this group are currently commiting tax fraud.

Just my two cents......

Now back to a good cigar and staring at the ladies....

TrannyMk
Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:11:00 PM
"Tranny,

Here's my non-biased, totally commie pinko take on the whole thing:"

adroomi

First, I want you to know that even though I rarely agree with you, I wouldnt call you a 'pinko commie'. I have read your take on it and respect it.

Let's be friends and understand that we both want the best for the US and the rest of the world, but have different takes on how that could be accomplished. OK?

Mike

adroomi
Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:22:00 PM
Thanks Tranny,

I made my commie pinko comment in jest by the way.....

I'm a selfish person....I lean to whatever side of the fence suits my purpose that day. I've been called a liberal, however if one were to think on my stance on abortion they would consider me a far leaning conservative.

I'm against guns, but own them, lots of them.

I'm against drinking but love to drink.

I agree don't like cigarettes but smoke when I'm drinking (never when smoking dope though..ha ha).

Generally, I tend to do what makes me feel good. Freespirited, and easy going.

I don't know a lot about what this RNC is up to, it just smells fishy to me, and when I smell fish I usually don't eat it.

You never did explain that picture of Little Richard on the wall by the way. The pigmy hippo I understand now.....

8trackdisco
Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:11:00 PM

**partial thread jack**

adroomi,

You have been quite laid back and funny (for the most part)recently. Nice to see that red ass fading a bit. Good work. Nice to see the personal growth and the humor at your own expense. Refreshing.

** threadjack off**

For the record, I'm against fraud.