eodusmc
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Saturday, July 16, 2005 9:56:00 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/15/marine.shooting.ap/index.html 

I understand there are fears of going to war. everyone has them, but what was this guy thinking when he signed the contract to join the USMC? GI Bill? A little walking around money? Money ain't that good, trust me. It really upsets me to see this publicity about Marines.

chris

herfsnipe
Saturday, July 16, 2005 11:25:00 AM
I've actually seen guys that have "hurt themselves" to get out of deploying overseas. I've had sailors that worked for me who have physically broken themselves, one by breaking his foot with a sledge hammer to avoid deploying.

Obviously he has a girl who he does not want to leave, or he is just plain scared. Bottom line, he's malingering. Now, he's broken military law by having someone else shoot him. He got his wish...for now. He will probably be sent to court martial. Jail time could follow.

There are better ways to get out. This was not one of them.

Charlie
Saturday, July 16, 2005 2:12:00 PM
Yes, it is disgraceful and should not be tolerated, but the ACLU will come to the rescue!

Charlie

stlbluesaddict
Sunday, July 17, 2005 6:48:00 AM
Well, the other concern here is that this Marine felt that he could not contact his chain of command in regards to these nightmares and issues that his father reported he was facing. Two things come to mind; one, he was scared to admit to it and be pointed out, or felt that it would be ignored, or two, he brought it up and nothing was done and he still faced an additional deployment.

Truth be told, I have several buddies who have been on tour, and a couple who are returning for their 2nd or 3rd tours and each has their own experiences that they care not to share. Duty and Honor keep them going, but they have been and will continue to face some personal challenges with dealing with the things they have seen.

This Marine does not necessarily give all Marines a bad name. He made a mistake, and now has to face ridicule and questioning. Hopefully some good will come from this. Regardless if anyone argues he is a coward or not, it is unfair for any other American to judge him, unless they have faced the same circumstances themselves.