...where you place your trust in times of spritual need.

We have a good mix of folks here that may not be comfortable staking their eternal souls (or otherwise) on traditional Christian or Jewish beliefs.

Anyone of you "heretics" care to share the source of your inspiration?

In the Lord Jesus Christ. But I don't wait until I have a need. Tuck

ummmm......this thread is for heretics only. LOL!

Jesus..... he is good.

Oooooops, sorry Andy, I dont reed it so gud.

My brother calls me the happy agnostic. Organized religion has no place in my world. I recognize that for many the connection with others through religion is as important as their connection with their God. I believe I miss too much trying to adhere to which rituals will get me in to heaven. I instead believe I must live the best I can and see him in each of my fellows. And understand why He comes to me in the ways he does each day.

I definately put my trust in christ.

but i'm not a heretic

Jah Rastafari

i would call myself a christian... Although in "Times of need" i would say my first move is to turn towards my friends!

I went through some pretty rough times several years back, and my few close friends that i have an my parents all pulled around me and helped me through.

Sometimes when your down, no matter how much you pray to what ever "god" you choose to worship, it is always nice to have something tangable to lean on.

Wether it be an actual voice on the other end of the phone, a soft shoulder to cry on, a buddy taking time out to go have a couple beers with you, your partner sitting with you at the dinner table listening to you gripe about your day.

I have heard it said "god first family second". I would have to say they should be one in the same. God is great, faith is great.. but you know.. when one of your buddies you have know since you were five gives you a big hug, looks you in the eye and says .. "hey, its going to be ok, I will always be here if you need me"..

it just does something to you!!

just my little .2 cents.

v

I would say the Baron has summed it up pretty good.

Tank

sleeping pills

This is an interesting question, andy. I guess my first response would be another question: how do you define "spiritual need"?

I consider myself non-religious and recognize no deity. However, perhaps surprising to some, I also consider myself very spritual. Spritual in the sense that I don't believe that when we die we just turn into dirt. I believe there is more but I won't go into that here. Also in the sense that I believe in a connectedness of all living and non-living things. We all matter and we are all part of each other.

So, in answer to your question, I would have to say that I turn to those I love and trust in times of need. I also require time alone, preferably in the woods or on the water. Communing with nature is the closest I get to going to church. For me, that's the REAL church.

I don't need or want any type of organized religion to give me spiritual peace. I don't look beyond this dimension for my answers because I live in this dimension and believe that is where the answers are. When my time comes to progress to the next level is when I might begin to understand it. I don't think there is any other way.

Nice response HD.

i put my trust in myself. i've a bit of a cynical philosophy. i know that i can make an impact on my state at any given time. i know that i can make the decisions that need to be made when things get unpleasant. most of all, i know that i will be here to answer for the way things turn out when i make my choices. i can only rely on one person. no matter what happens i'll be here. others my abandon you. spiritual guides are really are part of you anyway. thy're within -- fabrications of your own mind (in my opinion).

i will never put my trust in something that i think can let me down without any accountability. when i let myself down, i have to live with it. if i'm wise enough, i'll learn from it.