CaribbeanSoul
Monday, March 13, 2006 4:10:00 AM
Citizenship Lesson

1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

3. Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface.

4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.

5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?

6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.

7. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.

8. If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.

10. The United States Constitution (c) 1791: All Rights reserved.

11. What part of "... shall not be infringed ..." do you not understand?

12. The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others.

13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and liberals.

15. Know guns, know peace and safety. No guns, no peace no safety.

16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

17. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.

18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.

19. Criminals love gun control -- it makes their jobs safer.

20. If guns cause crime then matches cause arson.

21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.

22. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.

23. Enforce the "gun control laws" we have, don't make more.

24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.

25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

26. "A government of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE, for the PEOPLE..."

Tuckersdad
Monday, March 13, 2006 12:05:00 PM
Added by Tuck -

26. It's not only our right to keep and bear arms, it's our duty.

27. Only honest, law abiding citizens obey gun laws.

28. The police investigate and write reports on rape, assaults and murder, after the fact. Seldom can they prevent them.

29. “An armed society is a polite society.” Robert A. Heinlein

30. “Carrying a gun is a social responsibility.” Robert H. Boatman

31. A citizen who shirks his duty to contribute to the

security of his community is little better than the

criminal who threatens it.

32. Even though most people do not carry guns, the

mere possibility that an intended victim could be

armed with a handgun eliminates millions of crimes

every year.

33. According to the FBI, states with “shall-issue”

right-to-carry laws have a 26 percent lower total

violent crime rate, a 20 percent lower homicide

rate, a 39 percent lower robbery rate and a 22

percent lower aggravated assault rate than those

states that do not allow their citizens to legally

carry guns.

34. Professor of Criminology and Criminal Justice at

Florida State University, Gary Kleck, in Point

Blank: Gun Violence in America found that ‘robbery

and assault victims who used a gun to resist were

less likely to be attacked or to suffer an injury

than those who used any other method of self-

protection or those who did not resist at all.

35. Policemen are nobody’s personal bodyguards. Their

jobs are to find and arrest people who have

committed crimes, not to prevent such potential

crimes from happening in the first place. Clearly,

the responsibility for victim-prevention lies with

the victim-to-be.

36. If something ever happened to my wife and kids and I wasn’t able to protect them... well, I don’t think I’d be able to live with myself.

37. Carrying a loaded gun with the ability and will to

use it is not a casual fling meant to bring some

excitement into your boring life. It is an all-

embracing lifestyle and must take precedence over

your respect for law, your fear of social

criticism, your love of humanity, your wardrobe and

your drinking habits.

38. “‘Liberty or death,’ the meaning of which is clear

and absolute, is but a trivial phrase if you do not

carry a gun. For freedom-loving Americans, the five

most important words in the English language are,

and always have been – from my cold dead hands.

39. There are over 4 million U.S. citizens who have concealed carry permits.

40. Nobody, not a left wing politician or a wild eyed liberal loves a gun law more than criminals. Wouldn't you want your prey disarmed and helpless?

41. [Personal, from Tuck] Carrying a loaded firearm at all times has made me a better man. The serious responsibility of having the tool, skill and ability to take a human life in a dire emergency has led me to curb my temper, avoid escalating any confrontation if there is any way, to be aware of potential threats to myself and my family before it's too late, and has led to peace of mind, knowing I will not be a victim without fighting back.

What will you do if the bump in the night isn't the cat? And you are all that stands between a drug crazed intruder and your family?

Tuck

andytv
Monday, March 13, 2006 12:43:00 PM
added by Andy......

42. You don't have to know how to count to be a responsible gun owner..........you may even count "26" twice when counting to 41.

43. I agree with a lot of this; however I DO NOT agree that idiots should have guns, but idiots can find better ways to serve their community.......so gun ownership (to me) should not be a "responsibility".

Bjaardker
Monday, March 13, 2006 1:21:00 PM
Funny thing is, most of us "liberals" already feel there is enough gun control on the books to do the job.

At this point, the problem isn't gun control, it's the sociologial idea in this country that it's OK to shoot people to solve disagreements.

adroomi
Monday, March 13, 2006 2:45:00 PM
Oh come on BJ, no responsible person with his life changed due to his respect for himself and his "duty" to carry a gun would ever shoot anyone to solve a disagreement....

He might threaten to three times on a cigar forum, but that's only kidding, right?

andytv
Monday, March 13, 2006 2:51:00 PM
who threatened who?*

*yes, I realize that I have just poured a little gas on the inevitable fire.

adroomi
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:05:00 PM
Tuckersdad told me no less than three times that "I would make a good target" or some other general words to that effect. Don't remember exactly, once he also said "it's a wonder nobody has shot you yet, in fact, why don't you come on down to Arkansas...."

Just silly talk from a man in love with God.

billyjackson
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:12:00 PM

-----threadjack------

Tuck vs adroomi, while saddened me at first, have become a great source of entertainment IMO

adroomi
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:14:00 PM
for you and me both.....
8trackdisco
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:19:00 PM
'..At this point, the problem isn't gun control, it's the sociologial idea in this country that it's OK to shoot people to solve disagreements..'

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Um... that's ................ um............ not okay?

I don't recall Tuckersdad threatening to shoot adroomi once, let alone three times. But if that is the case, I will side with adroomi on this one.

Threatening to shoot somebody three times is wrong. Threaten zero times, and shoot once.

Its all a symptom of the rap music that started in the 90's when all these gangsta wannabees started talking about shooting people.

Too much threatening and not enough shooting for my tastes.

Man, if THAT going to win the award for Most Uplifting Post of the Day?

MACS
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:22:00 PM
Ya got my vote, 8.
adroomi
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:26:00 PM
8track,

I won't blame it on rap music. I blame it on poor training.

I agree with you. No warning, just pull the trigger. He who hesitates, loses his life.

I take guns and knives very seriously as I do threats to use them.

Disco is the cause of people killing each other with gold chains and platform shoes.

8trackdisco
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:31:00 PM
I blame it on poor training too.

They should train the rappers to shoot each other more effectively.

adroomi- Tell me there are still discos on Asia. You strike me as a not-so closet Tokyo Disco Guy.

adroomi
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:40:00 PM
8track,

You would be in Heaven here......

Tokyo, Beijing, Seoul, Singapore.....

There are entire clubs dedicated to the music of the 70's.

I go to this really cool place in Yokohama, Japan called Club Luther. The fourth floor is painted all black on the inside and only lit by candles. It has about 5 tables and a bar for maybe 15 people. You literally cannot see your hand in front of your face as you go in until your eyes adjust. The bartender spins records at a low volume.....only old school R and B music mixed in with the likes of Steely Dan, Hall and Oates, etc. A must place to take a friend.

On the third floor is Club Luther Groove, which is all red inside with a lighted floor. Only 1970's disco gets played. The 30-40 year old girls go in there in packs just looking to dance and drink. The men won't dance with the and aren't there anyway (it's a cultural thing) so you pretty much have the floor to yourself and your new posse of 5-6 "friends."

So.....

Get your back up off the wall!!!! Come on, Dance!

8trackdisco
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:45:00 PM
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
8trackdisco
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:46:00 PM
Get down on it.
MACS
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:48:00 PM
Get down on it!

Kool and the Gang.

Got that CD as well.

8trackdisco
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:51:00 PM
MACS,

You and I are going to be DEADLY in Vegas 07.

MACS
Monday, March 13, 2006 3:53:00 PM
Oh yeah!

adroomi
Monday, March 13, 2006 4:02:00 PM
I'll be the guy with the rainbow striped Tommy shirt, and the girl on each arm.....singing, "eeeeeyyyyyyeeeee, love to to love you baby. Eeeeeeeeyyyyyyeeeeee, love to love you baby."