Tuckersdad
Monday, March 13, 2006 6:03:00 PM
What's your plan if there is a bump in the night, and it's not the cat? Or you and your wife are accosted in the mall parking lot? Do you think about it? Have a plan? How do you feel about weapons in the home? Or about law abiding, trained citizens having the right to keep and bear weapons for self defense? What if you surrender your money and valuables and it's not enough, the criminal wants to harm you or your family?

We love the Lord and are thankful for His care, but also know it's our responsibility to protect our family to our ability. While we hate to even think about facing the decision to use deadly force against another human being, we know that it's a dangerous world we're living in. Little Rock has a terrible crime problem, and rapes, assaults, home invasions are common on the nightly news. And much of the violence now occurs at the mall, Burger King, and places "decent" people frequent in their everyday life.

Our four children are grown and have their own families of their own, so Jenny and I live here alone, and defensive weapons are a part of our defense plan. We take care to "disarm the fortress" when the grandchildren are here.

I have a carry permit and haven't left the property unarmed in many years. I normally carry a Taurus PT140 Millennium Pro, .40 cal. semi-auto., with 10 in the magazine and one in the chamber, along with a spare magazine with 10 additional rounds (you may have to face multiple assailiants). I carried a Glock model 23, .40 cal. for several years, but after a lot of shooting and carry training I much prefer the Taurus.

My wife prefers a .38 cal. snubby, and she is very accurate with it. We both use our local indoor range regularly to stay sharp. We enjoy the shooting sports, so we have fun tearing up targets as we keep ourselves skilled with the weapons.

But there is no handgun in the world with the devastating stopping power of a long gun, especially a shotgun. Cops regularly shoot criminals multiple times with handguns without stopping them. While there are loaded handguns on each of our nightstands, my first choice in the home is a side by side double barrel 20 gauge shotgun with exposed hammers. I can leave it beside the bed fully loaded, and it's completely safe unless the hammers are cocked. I keep a bandoleer (50 shell capacity) that slips over the shoulder beside the shotgun.

Until recently I used my riot gun, a Remington 12 gauge pump shotgun, with extended magazine (8 shells), with a short 18 inch barrel. My neuropathy problems have made the 12 gauge recoil very painful to shoot, and it has become more difficult for me to cycle the slide. The 20 gauge has less than half the felt recoil of the 12 gauge, and still delivers a devasting load if needed. I use #3 buckshot for defense ammunition.

Besides, looking down the muzzle of a double barreled shotgun is a frightening sight. Hopefully frightening enough to possibly prevent the necessity of having to escalate it to the next level.

In addition to the weapons we have very good solid exterior doors with first class double locks, pinned windows, and an 85 pound Boxer (Tucker) that shares our bed who sounds the alarm and roars like a lion at any noise.

We sleep well.

Tuck

andytv
Monday, March 13, 2006 6:19:00 PM
My 90lb dog is more attune to bumps in the night than I.......and would probably scare of any intruder just interested in burglary. If my dog would be killed/injured, then of course things would change;

1) Quietly usher my family up the stairs to the attic to put some space between them and the "assailants". Plan B; lay down beside the bed.........hide.

2) Try to contact my neighbor or father up the road. They would arrive much quicker than the police here.

3) Join my family..........stay close in an attempt to defend them. I have a loaded 44mag close to my bed, but high enough to be out of reach of the little girl. Also have a 12ga on the top of the gunrack.

4) Be quiet and let the SOBs rob my house..........I can replace anything I have; but not my family and they can't replace me.....I am not a combat shooter......in an impromptu gunfight there is a chance that someone I love may get shot.

If I get a shot at the fleeing vehicle, I'm putting 30 7.62mm's in it.........I have a clear shot down the only exit road.

Tuckersdad
Monday, March 13, 2006 6:24:00 PM
Good point, possessions aren't worth getting hurt, or having to take a life. Weapons are a last resort, when you don't "shoot to kill", you "shoot to live", or defend your family members from grave bodily harm. Tuck
sw48362
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:08:00 PM
Well when the alarm system is set off it plays the dueling banjos theme from Deliverance.

Then a the recorded voice says

"I hope you have purty lips cause I sure could enjoy the extra company. HEHAW HEHAW! "

Then another recorded voice

"Make him squeal like a pig!"

OK! who is first to break in? LOL!

Tuckersdad
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:11:00 PM
That'd do it for me!
Dr Pepperhill
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:16:00 PM
Tucks, as many times as I've heard you say you're ready for the lord to take you, and with as much narcotic medication as you're gobbling, I'd keep loaded firearms as far away as possible if I were you. One day you're going to wake up thinking you're sipping metamucil from a straw and wind up sucking on that Taurus PT140 Millennium Pro .40 cal. semi; not to mention your neuropathy problems. Uh uh uh, drugs, guns, and neurological disorders do mot mix well at all.
Tuckersdad
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:19:00 PM
But what if some crazed real estate agent with illusions of being a world famous phycologist breaks into my house and is trying to have carnal knowledge with my dog?
Dr Pepperhill
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:24:00 PM
Tucks, in the midsts of narcosis/psychosis, how could you possibly tell the difference between me and Elvis?
MACS
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:25:00 PM
"But what if some crazed real estate agent with illusions of being a world famous phycologist breaks into my house and is trying to have carnal knowledge with my dog?"

I don't care whoya're... THAT was hilarious.

MACS
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:30:00 PM
To answer the question.

1) I have a standard issue 24" baton close at hand.

2) I have a .22 caliber pistol in my closet, but it is not loaded.

So I guess the answer to the question is, if the crook don't run when I say "Honey, hand me my shotgun" I best get to loading that .22 or we're screwed if he's armed.

Fact is, most home invaders will run like hell if you wake up. However, in the unfortunate event that one who doesn't run enters my home... I hope he isn't armed, or he's slow enough that I can get a few rounds in the Mag before he gets upstairs. I'll only need a couple.

Dr Pepperhill
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:32:00 PM
Arkansonians are funny folks MACS... REAL funny (if ya know what I mean).
Tuckersdad
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:33:00 PM
But Texicans with fake doctorates aren't.
MACS
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:36:00 PM
Wow, you managed to insult Texans AND Mexicans with one word.

Good for you.

Dr Pepperhill
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:40:00 PM
If someone has the bad judgement to break into your home, nothing satisfies like the twangy sound of fine german steel against a hand held knife sharpener (shring! ... shring!) and a maniacal (out)look. Let the games begin.
Tuckersdad
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:40:00 PM
Can't take credit MACS, it's strictly drug related.

By the way, my son too is getting ready to go back to the sandpit, I hope you both return safe and sound.

Tuck

Tuckersdad
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:41:00 PM
There was something about . . . . . never bring a knife to a gunfight.
Dr Pepperhill
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:43:00 PM
That was a bad movie line ... better yet, never mix guns and drugs.
MACS
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:43:00 PM
The reason I keep my gun unloaded is because I don't want to ruin the springs in my magazines.

But, I think I may just have to go get a few more of them, they're cheap enough, and keep a couple loaded ones for good measure.

My son is quite proficient with it too. I also have a .22 rifle, but it would be rather useless for home defense.

I only own .22's because they are very cheap to shoot.

Tuckersdad
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:49:00 PM
Very good idea MACS - rotate your magazines every month. Let the springs relax. There are no doubt many guns out there with magazine springs that have been under full compression for years. I like to have three, and mine get a rest every two months.
MACS
Monday, March 13, 2006 7:54:00 PM
That's why you only put 20 rounds in your 30 round M-16 mags.

I have 7 of them and they won't be rotated for 6 months. But I will empty them on occasion. :^)

There are plenty of "shooting galleries" there and expending ammo is not an issue.