jetblasted
Monday, March 20, 2006 4:20:00 PM
Has the Bush administration been effective in handling public relations on efforts in Iraq?

Yes 9% 14897 votes

No 91% 150468 votes

Total: 165365 votes

jetblasted
Monday, March 20, 2006 4:20:00 PM
Interesting numbers . . .
andytv
Monday, March 20, 2006 5:03:00 PM
that poll proves that the people polled feel that way.

Wasn't it Mark Twain who said,

"Theres lies, theres DAMN lies, and then there statistics".

jetblasted
Monday, March 20, 2006 5:06:00 PM
It seems most polls are of just 1000 people . . . these numbers are higher . . .
TBWCW
Monday, March 20, 2006 5:20:00 PM
Who would disagree? Who thinks we have managed public relations concerning the war in Iraq well? I'd wager that most members of the administration would agree with that assessment.
andytv
Monday, March 20, 2006 5:29:00 PM
I hear you WJM, but you could take a poll on what color the sky is, and wouldn't have such a differential as we see here.

There are scads of people in this country who fervently support Bush no matter what.......I don't think this poll was administered in THAT part of the country.

Dr Pepperhill
Monday, March 20, 2006 5:44:00 PM
Twain's old saw has some validity, on the other hand, I don't think it makes much sense to expect a blizzard in Death Valley in July, with the average temperatures there registering in at about 40 degrees celcius.

many factors should be taken into account when evaluating the claims of polls, however, in polls administered randomly, with a high sample number, the statistical correlation between between the poll what the poll claims can be quite high.

I don't recall seeing one poll in the past year, whether painstakingly gathered, or done on the cheap, that shows segments of the American public supporting this war.

adroomi
Monday, March 20, 2006 5:53:00 PM
I doubt anybody would agree that his PR has been up to snuff.

Those photos of kids holding up signs saying "thank you Mr. Bush" were a good idea, but the Civil Affairs folks out of Hawaii botched it all up when the hired a novice photoshopper to make the darn things. They should've contacted Slim.

Saying "Bring it on!" then having 6 guys die 9 hours later in an ambush when they "brought" it on didn't help either.

It's a war, we are there. Why is no longer important. We will stay longer, we will lose more. In the end, we will come back home with a few thousand less men and women to enjoy life with, and not a whole lot else. Iraq will go continue to be Iraq.

jackconrad
Monday, March 20, 2006 6:15:00 PM
I don't think he's worried about it. He does what he thinks is right and that is that.
andytv
Monday, March 20, 2006 6:24:00 PM
thats right JC........if we are generally regarded as a nation full of idiot cowboys, then who would possibly take our opinion seriously?
jetblasted
Monday, March 20, 2006 6:43:00 PM
There are scads of people in this country who fervently support Bush no matter what . . .

Yeah, they show up in the 29% approval ratings poll . . .

tey
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  • Herf-A-Holic
Monday, March 20, 2006 7:22:00 PM
lol
JonR
Monday, March 20, 2006 8:02:00 PM
I'm 62 years old an I have never been asked to participate in any political poll, I wonder how many others on this board have never been asked.

JonR

PS: I wonder if they include illegals in polls?

adroomi
Monday, March 20, 2006 8:17:00 PM
Why? are you an illegal? That would explain both questions wouldn't it?
Dr Pepperhill
Monday, March 20, 2006 8:31:00 PM
I get way too many phone calls from public opinion surveys asking me to answer a few questions (probably because I have disposable income, buy high ticket items, and end up on marketing lists).

These polls are highly biased however, because they only reflect the views of:

A) People who have phones.

B) People who have phones and answer them.

Really poor people often do not have phones. Rich people have phones, but often pay other people to answer them. So Telephone polls are not random, highly biased, and unscientific.

adroomi
Monday, March 20, 2006 8:41:00 PM
But DrPepperhill......who really cares what the poor think anyway?
jjohnson28
Monday, March 20, 2006 8:41:00 PM
On face value I would have to vote no but then I didn't vote for him because of his public relations abilities.

A better question might have been. Has the mainly liberal and biased media been effective in undermining public relations on the efforts in Iraq?

Answer, Yes.

JJ

adroomi
Monday, March 20, 2006 8:42:00 PM
Katrina was the only chance they got to voice their opinion, and we quickly disregarded it.
adroomi
Monday, March 20, 2006 8:48:00 PM
JJ,

I wouldn't say the liberal (there's that word again!) or biased (as opposed to the fair and balanced Fox network?) media had anything to do with it.

I'd venture to say more likely it was:

1. His promise that oil revenues would pay for the war and that it would be a short conflict proved false.

2. The VP's statement last May that the insurgency was in its "last throes" proving to be false.

3. Basically every single thing he's said about this war being proven false.

No biased media can hide those 3 simple truths.....

jackconrad
Monday, March 20, 2006 8:53:00 PM
Clinton was great at Pr The world does and did love him But thier was no substance to the man. Bush understands one thing those with the will to persevere win. He's for sure no PR guy but i'd take one a him on my side over a million Clintons. There is no way to put a good spin on a Horror story and that is where the world is at right now. With Terrorist and extremist finally using our need for instant gratification against us. Hell even i make fun of Bush but is only in fun i'm not silly enough to sell the future of mankind down the drain and either is he. Believe me it's not easy to be in a good humor when your a President living in this world today, seeing what he sees and knowing what he knows. Try rooting for your side for a change.It works.