usahog
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Friday, March 31, 2006 7:49:00 AM
So you can fill your guns up before you draw the battle lines.. ;0)~~

and anyone else who wants to know what's going on in America... (good subscription and it's free to email..

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WEEK ENDING MARCH 31, 2006 - FROM WASHINGTON, DC

LEGISLATIVE UPDATE - WEEK ENDING MARCH 31, 2006

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

On Tuesday the vehicle driven by our executive director, Peggy Birchfield, was attacked and beaten upon by illegal aliens as she waited at a traffic light near Capitol Hill. The illegals, draped in Mexican flags, were protesting possible legislation which would force them to obey the laws of the United States. In Los Angeles, more than 500,000 illegals and their supporters clogged the streets demanding their "right" to enter and work in the United States. Many of those demonstrators draped themselves in the Mexican flag to show their true allegiance. (Students from Pioneer, California and Whittier high schools walked out of classes to protest the proposed federal immigration bill March 27, 2006. The protesters put up the Mexican flag over the American flag flying upside down at Montebello High.)

The Rule of Law in the United States is being undermined by 12,000,000 illegal aliens who drive without licenses or insurance. The average illegal is in violation of at least half a dozen federal, state and local laws just as a result of being here illegally. Meanwhile millions of law abiding people throughout the world who have patiently applied for American citizenship are being denied entry. The solution proposed by the Senate Judiciary Committee led by Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA) is a law that would DECRIMINALIZE illegal entry into the United States. (Yes, you read that right.) While the House wanted to make illegal entry a felony, the Senate Judiciary Committee removed even the misdemeanor penalty. Then the Senate version gives amnesty to the illegals living here, thus putting the law abiding people who want to become Americans at the back of the line. Many Senators, both Democrats and Republicans have been bought off by Wall Street. The big money boys want illegal Mexicans in this nation, not legal immigrants. Employers have to pay legal immigrants a decent wage and cannot abuse them. Even the big corporations that don't hire illegals want them in the USA because they reduce the overall wage scale. The Wall Street lobbyists are all over Senators threatening them with cuts in political support and contributions if most illegals are forced to go back to Mexico. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist supported the amnesty bill until his phone began to ring off the wall from angry Americans and his Presidential ambitions began to vanish. By Thursday he had a change of heart and said he would not support any bill that contained amnesty. (Click here for Frist story)

THE HOUSE

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

The Senate still does not understand the message from the American people on illegal immigration, but the House of Representatives does. The man who early on had the true pulse of Americans on the issue of illegals was Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO) who is also chairman of the Immigration Reform Caucus. While other legislators, particularly Senators have been hiding from the issue, Congressman Tancredo has been talking to the victims of illegal immigration. Virtually every day Americans are killed by thugs who are wanted in Mexico and who have simply walked into the United States to take up a life of crime here. It is estimated that more than 15% of the illegals in the United States are wanted for felony crimes either here or in other nations. In some jails in California over half of the inmates are illegals. Wall Street views Tom Tancredo as an enemy and the Wall Street Journal has written several editorials against him. Those who favor illegal immigration are planning an all-out campaign to remove him from office in the next election. Tancredo is also chairman of Team America, a PAC working to restore the Rule of Law in America.

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Mattie B
Friday, March 31, 2006 2:53:00 PM
Uhhh tey... Comments???
adroomi
Friday, March 31, 2006 4:34:00 PM
Why should Tey comment about this? Are you more concerned with the situation involving illegal aliens in America, or prooving something to Tey?

Mattie, what is your stance on all of this? What is your view of the article above? Do you have a solution?

From your side, and from Tey's side, why must this always be broken down into an arguement? The article, in my opinion, clearly points the finger at congress, big business, and the folks that are making money. People in America want cheap lettuce, therefore there are illegals. Don't blame the illegals for doing the jobs that are given to them.

tailgater
Friday, March 31, 2006 5:10:00 PM
Adroomi,

The illegal immigration problem IS due to congress, big business (to a lesser degree), and those who pay them.

But we can NOT consider those who come here illegally as blameless as you clearly state.

Using that logic, I should be able to sell drugs. Afterall, it's not MY fault that people want to pay me for them.

There's plenty of blame to go around. It's tough to blame the law makers because the laws DO EXIST that define undocumented entry as illegal. Like all too often, instead of enforcing the existing laws, our politicians want to paste their name on a NEW law that wants to solve a problem while behaving in a PC manner. And once again, they will fail on both counts.

I don't want Americans to hire illegals. I want existing laws enforced. Does that sound racist?

Then why is it labeled racist when I complete that thought by professing that the illegals should stay in their own country?

I think it's outrageous to suggest that illegals should be catered to and viewed as victims of our system. They're victims, but it's of their native land. The same country that they will claim to be "proud of" even though they felt compelled to escape it's government induced poverty.

That's my 2 pesos.

TrannyMk
Friday, March 31, 2006 5:16:00 PM
You are so full of it drippy.

How many cheap heads of lettuce is it gonna take to make up for the hospitals that have shut down, or the uninsured motorist claims that are made, or the border patrol we need to pay for because of these criminals? How many illegals are we supporting in prision?

You are blind as a bat. These things cost us much more than we save on produce. And my examples are only the tip of the iceburg.

adroomi
Friday, March 31, 2006 5:17:00 PM
If the laws change are you ARE allowed to sell drugs, please email me. Finding good weed in Japan is a pain in the butt......

adroomi
Friday, March 31, 2006 5:18:00 PM
What is this new "kick" that everyone is on on this board about hospitals shutting down? Did some fool on Fox TV say that, and now it's the latest rumour?

Quick Tranny, since you seem to be so eloquent and KNOW what you are argueing about......Name me ONE hospital that has shut down. No time to look it up on Google....just name one....right.....NOW!

TrannyMk
Friday, March 31, 2006 5:27:00 PM
Here's 3

Elastar Community, Santa Teresita, and Century City.

TrannyMk
Friday, March 31, 2006 5:30:00 PM
Just so you know. I did google it. I dont have a hospital near me that's going down. There are 27 in CA alone. I chose three instead of listing them all. You can look them all up youself.
adroomi
Friday, March 31, 2006 5:41:00 PM
Have you ever considered that blindly blaming the closure of hospital emergency rooms is simply another propaganda method that the "anti-illegal" folks at Fox Network and the hard right neocons use against you?

Now...as I've said, keep in mind, I am AGAINST illegal immagration......

Just because an emergency room closes, you cannot blame that soley on illegals with no insurance. There are just as many emergency room closures in "non-illegal heavy" cities as well.

There are NEW, better, and more expensive hospitals and "care centers" popping up ALL OVER AMERICA.

The new hospitals get the patients who can afford to pay for the new equipment or who have good insurance. The better doctors are attracted to the newer hospitals. The old hospitals are left with the people who don't have insurance or can't afford the more expensive services.

It's not that the hospitals close because they have too many illegals, it's because they don't have enough rich folks.

Generally if you search the areas where the hospitals are closing, you will find that within the past year or two, at least ONE other better equiped and updated care center just opened up.

It's like Wal-mart running mom and pop stores out of business.

Fox doesn't report that side of the story though.....they're saving it for next year when the hoo-ha over illegals has fizzled out.

HockeyDad
Friday, March 31, 2006 5:47:00 PM
We need to build a wall around California including the use of landmines. That state is broke and can't even keep its hospitals open. We would get rid of Hollywood as a bonus!
usahog
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Friday, March 31, 2006 5:48:00 PM
Wow Mike you found 3 in 9 minutes thats prety good googling LOL...

Adroomi.. back up to your first post #3.. where in any of the above was it an Arguement?

"why must this always be broken down into an arguement?"

There were only two other posts before you made that comment? So I can only think that you are trying to divert this thread topic off to another one of your agendas?

In many of Tey's recent posts he's been flaming many on this board about this March and the Illegal Immigrant situation... I above in this thread pointed out some facts for him to review... never once was there an arguement or mention of something that would create one until your post #3?

Hog

adroomi
Friday, March 31, 2006 5:49:00 PM
I agree, and who needs Hollywood. India is producing much better films anyway these days.

The sad thing is, with Hollywood gone, America will then have little if NO exports anymore, and we'll be a nation dependent upon foreign imports, with nothing to export.

TrannyMk
Friday, March 31, 2006 5:52:00 PM
"Have you ever considered that blindly blaming the closure of hospital emergency rooms is simply another propaganda method that the "anti-illegal" folks at Fox Network and the hard right neocons use against you?"

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I gave you an answer. You are guessing. You lose. And do you really think FOX can get away with lying? If they were, other networks would have a field day.

The competition would love to smear FOX's reputation if they could. Especially since FOX's ratings are better than the rest of the other cable new channels COMBINED, YES COMBINED!

Cant you do better than that?

adroomi
Friday, March 31, 2006 6:08:00 PM
"Another hospital that serves mainly hispanics has closed in Orange County this month....film at eleven."

"Another outdated, behind the times hospital with old-ass equipment has closed in Orange County this month. Right next door a brand new one with super new equipment has opened. The new hospital will cater of course to the rich people in town that can afford the worlds most expensive health insurance that we in America have, while the middle class and poor will not be able to use it......film at eleven."

It's not about lying....it's simply about NOT telling the whole story.

TrannyMk
Friday, March 31, 2006 6:15:00 PM
Ok, that's one, 26 to go. You are gonna be up all night drippy, LOL!
adroomi
Friday, March 31, 2006 6:18:00 PM
it's one in the afternoon here Transvestite.
TrannyMk
Friday, March 31, 2006 6:23:00 PM
You are so naive it's pathetic. The other networks would still rip on FOX for NOT giving a complete story and you know it.

When it comes to competition, it's a dog eat dog world. FOX isnt #1 for no good reason. Give it up pal. You look desperate trying to make a point that isnt there.

adroomi
Friday, March 31, 2006 6:30:00 PM
Keep staring at your TV Tranny.

Trust all that they tell you.

Don't for one minute ever think that they are ONLY in it for the money, and will tell you whatever you want to hear so that you'll continue to tune in.

TrannyMk
Friday, March 31, 2006 6:32:00 PM
Show me one example that you can back up. JUST ONE WILL DO.