The 100 anniversary of The San Franciso Quake was discussed much last week. One of the reports (from National Public Radio) stated the scientific community agrees that there is a 60-65% chance of The Big One- one dwarfing the 1906 quake of happening "sooner than later", which when pressed, one scientist said within the next 20-25 years.

There are a bunch of Californians here on cbid that I like, and some that fall under the "sometimes interesting, sometimes entertaining, but boy he is kooky" (that's you, Rickmaven).

Yes California is beautiful. Yes the climate is nice. And maybe its where you grew up; its home.

But knowing what you know about what is coming, and the vast devastation, huge projected death toll, the probable dysfunctional federal response and all...

What makes you stay there?

I know. I live in a place that is below freezing 90 days a year. But the ground below my feet isn't going to quake any time soon.

Are you all prepared for this potential nightmare on your collective horizons?

How have you prepared for it?

Worst case scenario list:

1.) Well stocked humidors.

2.) Well stocked wine cellar.

3.) Creek in the backyard to boil water from.

4.) Month's supply of Top Ramen, canned tuna, etc. The bay and the Pacific are within walking distance (leapard sharks, crabs, & croakers are easy to catch).

5.) Plenty of good books (intellectually, if not morally).

Besides not being able to order pizza delivery and using candles for awhile, I don't see a big problem. Hell I could trip and fall down the stairs and become a toothless quadraplegic too. Everything's A-ok here in the present however.

8trackdisco

i suppose the citizens of pompeii were smarter then the people in californis, they never rebuilt pompeii.

i think we take a narrow minded view and justify it by, we don't have typhoons, or hurricanes, or snow and slush.

the thought of my feet and fingers tingling from the cold, eliminates my concern about earthquakes. if you live where it's below zero 90 days out of the year, that's a given every year, year after year. been there, done that.

the big one, probably long after i'm gone.

I don't remember within the last 5-7 years of feeling any quake. If you feel something it's like a large truck driving by your house. Just a little window rattle and it's gone. People who don't live around Cali think the ground opens up and destoys everything. Look at the death toll from hurricanes, tornados, & extreme cold (you have warnings for those) and compare the earthquake death tolls for the last 50 years (in the USA).

WE are all going sometime, may as well make it sunshine and warm beaches for me at least.

I forgot to answer your preparedness question.

If I'm at work I'm royally f*cked, 90 million SCF Hydrogen plant, 30,000 barrel per day Isomerization unit, 320ft x 20ft tower that seperates propylene from propane (imagine your BBQ propane tank but million times bigger) all that in my unit we run, not counting the rest of the refinery vs. A small ops shelter that can withstand a 3psi blast. Chances are not good, but we have 6 explosion proof containers (diesel truck size)all throughout the plant full of supplys.

My wife works at a hospital, so as long as the building don't collapse she's good.

Home- nothing really. I figure if I live, I should be able to fish the food & water from my shelves. If the house crumbles I have lots of heavy tools to retrieve the food, my truck will be fine because it gets parked in the street where nothing can harm it. All that would easily buy me a couple of weeks until the **** gets sorted out.

I'm not from Cali, only been to the state once in my entire life, don't know if I'll ever make it back? maybe if it's to meet up with BOTL I've met through this forum and others? I'da Say Nevada would be the closest...

But, I did watch the Calinfornia Quake series Discorvery just ran a few nights back on San Fran...

and back then, there wouldn't have been a firefighter in the area that could get a job outside (if servived) the state... they were setting fires with Dynomite to try and contain that fire that was spreading.. it was sad, but I was LMAO at how stupid the actions of the local government was... and do you think for a second anything was learned? on the Docu. it said not two weeks had the enforcement of the building code had lasted.. and then think about Katrina and 2005 Hurricans??? I would either have a grand insurance policy granted out for my kids.. or I'd move the F*ck outa California or that general area anyways...

Hog

I know CA is known for earthquakes but its not the only place that has fault lines that can produce quakes. Here are some other place that have had quakes and when they could expect another one.

Place: Cape Ann, Mass., near Boston

What happened: A magnitude 6.0 earthquake on Nov. 18, 1755.

What earthquake experts say: There have been about eight notable quakes in the region in the past 25 years. Scientists think New England is due for another.

Place: New Madrid, Mo.

What happened: At least three major earthquakes in 1811-12, ranging from 7.3 to possibly 8.0 in magnitude.

What earthquake experts say: There's at least a 25% chance that a magnitude 6.0 quake will strike within the next 50 years.

Place: Meers, Okla.

What happened: A quake at least 6.5 in magnitude, sometime between A.D. 700 and 800.

What earthquake experts say: The likelihood of a quake of magnitude 6.5 or higher within the next 200 years is very small, but not impossible.

Place: Charleston, S.C.

What happened: An estimated magnitude 7.3 earthquake on Aug. 31, 1886, reportedly killed as many as 110 people.

What earthquake experts say: Expect at least a magnitude 5.0 here within the century.

Small earthquake shakes the South

Tuesday, April 29, 2003

ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- A rare earthquake measuring magnitude 4.9 shook the South early Tuesday, waking up people from Mississippi to North Carolina, but the tremor failed to inflict significant damage, bleary-eyed residents and officials said.

The epicenter of the tremor was about 37 miles southwest of Chattanooga, Tennessee, along the border of Georgia and Alabama, according to the U.S. Geological Survey Web site. It struck just before 5 a.m. EDT.

I felt this one . . . it was strange . . . Like being on a roller coaster.

I live in Cental Pa and have lived thru 4 Blizzards and 5 Floods. I 'd like to move but stay because i have alot of relatives here, including grandkids. So i can see why people stay where they live. More power to you.

Earthquakes have never affected the way I live. By the time I can feel them down in San Diego, all their energy is spent. The real threat here in California is fire. With all the subdivision houses and condos within feet of each other, it doesn't take long to destroy a lot of real estate. Add a little Santa Ana, and you've got a firestorm.

living in l.a. for the last 37 byears has been GREAT!

funny, the only other place i'd care to live in is frisco-

as for the rock & roll? really...? they're are no big deal. there was a point when i actually looked forward to them. not a bad ride really. and i can clearly remember:

whittier

northridge

pasadena

sierra madre-

hell, i went to big bear one thanksgiving weekend and a 7.1(?) hit while i was there. rare for them though.

i know there were annother one or two i can't think of. but for those of you who hafve never lived through one, they're a bit trippy the first time... don't get me wrong- i don't like the fact that thigs get ruined(pasadena: $11million in damages in 11 seconds), and nobody likes to hear about human tragedies, but they really are few & far-

tornadoes? blizzards? hurricanes? ect- anywhere you live there is a cost. and like 03screw said, we don't see the ground opening up and swallowing cities.

hmmm.... really, the house shakes for a few seconds, theres a big mess, you clean up, you thank god you're still alive and go on with life-

nine

Hey 8track,

I remember from when I was in Seattle (same fault, also going to fall into the sea sometime) you just accept it as being a possibility. It seems that every location you can live in can have some sort of devestation. Here in the midwest there are tornados, and while they don't do the damage that a big earthquake can do, they also happen a lot more often. I'd be willing to bet that the dollar/life value of tornado damage is about equal to that of earthquakes if both were taken over 50 or 100 years.

The south has the hurricanes... you just can't win!

I remember the Whittier quake best of all, it knocked water out of my swimming pool and the dogs were going nuts.....yes, they can be scary, but not as scary as a Hurricane that has 140 knot winds and tons of rain, or toranado that picks up everything in its path and moves it and destroys it......the Whittier quake was right at 7.0 and lasted about 45 seconds. It was a big mean mother....

Can't leave, wife will not move.

Charlie

Lots of cigars, pool full of water, have bottles of water on hand, lots of food, we are set for whatever.....

Charlie

Ok I guess its time for the Native Nor Cal guy to chime in. Born and raised in San Jose. In fact, I can see the hospital I was born in right out the East window.

Earthquakes dont really seem to bother most up here. The house rattles, you say ..."hmmmm earthquake, maybe a 4.0." Its just something we live with. Just like the midwesterners and twisters. Except they know when those are coming. I have been thru hundreds of quakes, little ones, big ones, short ones, long ones. The short ones can be loud, one big BANG the ground rattles and its done. But I like the long rolling ones. Those are the best. From my house, I can be at the beach in 40 minutes, the mountans in about 2.5 hours. The weather is fantastic. I wear shorts 10 months out of the year. Move away cuz the earth jiggles every now and then...No way.

I must say tho, it is a humbling experience to see what mother nature can do to the earth. I was in a parking lot during the '89 Loma Prieta quake. Saw the asphalt raise up about 4 freet and roll like some one was shakining out a rug. That was right before a 12 foot plate glass window blew out of the Goodyear store. The cars on the racks were swaying a good 4 feet side to side. All I could think of on my drive home is if my kids were ok and my 125, 55 and 30 gallon fish tanks were still in tact. Thank god for plexiglass

Preparedness? I gues I could do something

Every place has it problems earthquakes are so mañana. We spent about 7 years living on the toe of a major flood control dam.

Another California Native chimes in. I was born in San Fernando, lived last in Orange County. I have also lived in Mexico, Texas and South Carolina. One fact you can’t get around:

There is no better weather than California.

The beaches and the mountains are fabulous, and unlike so many other states, mostly public land accessible to all.

OTOH… there are way too people, especially from other places, the graffiti stinks as do the gangs and the crime.

I will visit my Mother and Sister, but it is extremely unlikely we will ever live there again.

***OTOH… there are way too people, especially from other places, the graffiti stinks as do the gangs and the crime...***

This is not the case up here in the SF Bay Area. There are some of these issues but not like down south. 2 different worlds.

I rode out Hurricane Katrina last Aug. 29. And after seeing all the destruction here on the MS Gulf Coast, I have no problems with staying. Next time I will evacuate though and have a bigger supply of cigars on hand. If it wasn't for work I would not have an internet connection today. I know that we will be hit by another hurricane one day, just like all our BOTL/SOTL in CA know there will be more wildfires and quakes, but this is home and we are not leaving.

Todd

So far, everyone has been referencing the smaller rolling quakes. What about the biggie: an 8-9 mag. right through LA or SF? We're talking major liquifaction, buildings collapsing, mega-death, rioting, looting, and general societal collapse for 1-2 weeks.

It will happen.

I take some comfort that where I am in north San Diego county is actually pretty far from the San Andreas or its biggest partners. But like everyone else, I take a pretty fatalistic view of it all: there are disasters everywhere, so we have it pretty good until our time is up.

[Actually, when I visited Brazil last year I found out they have NO natural disasters: no earthquakes (those happen on the west coast of S. Amer.), no hurricanes, no typhoons, no tornados, no disastrous flooding. The locals say that Brazilians are their own natural disaster.]

y'all could move to NYC where all you have to deal with is some snow and 300 percent retail prices on cigars.