leftyposthole
Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:21:29 PM
someone with little or no experience in the wonderful world of cigar smoking would be able to appreciate a fine cigar like a PAM or would it be a waste of one the worlds finest smokes?

Lefty

z6joker9
Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:25:51 PM
Appreciate or fully appreciate? And do they have experience tasting wine, liquor, etc?

I would say the value wouldn't equal the cost for them or most cigar smokers in general.

Cereal City Cigar Smoker
Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:37:28 PM

someone with little or no experience in the wonderful world of cigar smoking would be able to appreciate a fine cigar like a PAM or would it be a waste of one the worlds finest smokes?

Lefty

leftyposthole wrote:

I would not give someone that good of a smoke who was not already into cigars unless it was a very special occaision. For example, I gave my step-son and his wife's Father an Opus X each, for the birth of his son?grandson.

Other than that .... give them something mild/medium that you like and think they will enjoy.

Just my 3 cents ......🌫

c3s

dubleuhb
Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:43:14 PM
I have a couple guys I work with that have been enjoying cigars now for a couple years. Neither did until I asked if they would like to try one, we can fire them up when the upper management leaves at night. I have a ball taking the bands off and then asking if they thought it was anygood. I have yet to give them any PAM, but many other high end sticks have gone their way and for the most part they enjoy them. But as much as a get a laugh it's a bit frustrating when I give them a dog rocket and they love it. But taste is subjective so to each his own i guess.

Answer to your question, a waste of a great cigar.

Advojp
Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:44:11 PM
Agreed. To many, smoke is smoke. I've been smoking cigars for over a year now. I'd save an Opus X or any other super premium (and I think that only by what I hear and what "they" charge)for as long as I could because I'd be affraid I would not be able to "get it." Now, I do think my palate is improving. I don't necessarily pull flavors, but some are definitely better than others. So, would I give a super premium to a non-cigar person? Probably not. Like C3s said, "something mild/medium that you like and think they will enjoy"
dkeage
Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:53:46 PM

someone with little or no experience in the wonderful world of cigar smoking would be able to appreciate a fine cigar like a PAM or would it be a waste of one the worlds finest smokes?

Lefty

leftyposthole wrote:

Nothing is a waste, if you want to gift it.

BUT, I'd go with a regular Padron Maddy in it's place. Great cigar for the price, IMHO

Stinkdyr
Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:13:23 PM
If I wanted to give a good cigar to someone fairly new to cigars....but one that they might be able to really like....

Padron Londres maduro.

Not too big, no too expensive. But a really nice stick.

If they seem to appreciate it, you can ramp up from there.

If they don't seem to think it is anything great, then any old cigar thrown their way should suffice.

That's how I roll.

🇨🇮

nnightmar
Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:55:37 PM

someone with little or no experience in the wonderful world of cigar smoking would be able to appreciate a fine cigar like a PAM or would it be a waste of one the worlds finest smokes?

Lefty

leftyposthole wrote:

Appreciate? Possibly. Never judge a book by its cover.

Then again you could always give a regular Padron!

Course if they are fairly new and you are unsure of the palette you might want to consider starting with something a little milder...

leftyposthole
Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:11:35 PM
My son graduates from seminary in May. He is an intern at a Church in St. Joe, Mo. He and his Pastor (boss) enjoy a good cigar occasionally. So it will be a special occasion. Wanted it to be a very good smoke but but also something they would enjoy. Part of his graduation gift will be a humi fiiled with good cigars. Thanks for all your suggestions. Any more good ideas out there?
APBTMarcel
Wednesday, December 21, 2011 4:57:27 PM
I would give him a regular and not a PAM for a very long time.
Northsidepk
Wednesday, December 21, 2011 6:00:52 PM
You may not fully appreciate it BUT I would recommend it. All this depends on you financial situation of course.

But if you like to spoil yourself a bit, go ahead you will enjoy it and it will broaden your horizons.

delarob
Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:39:03 AM
You're overthinking this. If they are good friends and you enjoy smoking with them, what is the real issue? When you start devalueing the gift by wondering if they'll appreciate it why give a gift at all?

And, if you leave the band on and say this is one of my favorite cigars, you may be setting yourself up for a return gift of that very smoke. Not saying the intent is for a return gift, but true friends will share in return and will remember things like that.

Give em the PAM.

leftyposthole
Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:30:40 AM
Well said rob, It's for my son's graduation so its not the money, just wanted to be sure they would like it, but then it's a PAM whats not to like
DCLover
Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:53:40 AM
Your son is graduating from seminary?

Buy him a box of PAMs! (PAN should also be an option, equally great cigar)

itsawaldo
Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:32:01 PM
My son when he is home will occasionally smoke with me and he will usually have me pick one out for him. He doesnt smoke enough to fully appreciate something top shelf. Don't get me wrong he has had his share of good ones with me but If he comes looking for something when I am not around he knows he can have what he wants.....out of the larger humi, the smaller one, well he sould ask first.

If I ever get to herf with any of you guys, you can have your pick, you know what you like, help yourself. I can always get more.

Nicar
Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:01:27 PM
I got 1 rule when I gift someone a cigar.... it's yours.. do with it what you like.. wont hurt my feelings if its one puff and you toss it (my brother didn't want to take a cuban once cause he was thinking he wouldn't finish it.... he finally took it.... and didn't finish it... but that's ok cause I gave it to him)
daveincincy
Thursday, December 22, 2011 3:15:30 PM

Nothing is a waste, if you want to gift it.

BUT, I'd go with a regular Padron Maddy in it's place. Great cigar for the price, IMHO

dkeage wrote:

X2 on both comments.

How often does this person smoke? Back when I didn't own any cigars and would only buy a cigar, for the most part, when I was on vacation Padrons were what I'd get...even the PAMs. And I enjoyed it. Maybe not as much as I might now, but I considered it a treat to buy one. There were other decent cigars I bought myself, but I found myself gravitating towards Padron 9 out of 10 times if available. Now that I have many cigars, I don't even have 1 Padron in my "collection." 🤔

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