DrafterX
14 years ago
Trains roll from Canada to Gulf to fill void left by failed Keystone Pipeline
By Perry Chiaramonte

Published March 20, 2012

The amount of oil Canadian Pacific Railways carries down through the heartland has surged 2,500 percent since 2009, to 8.5 million barrels per year from just 325,000. The company expects to move 45 million barrels per year within the decade.


A Canadian Pacific train moving crude oil out of the Bakken formation in North Dakota. Transporting of crude oil has dramatically increased since 2009.

“We are responding to a growing demand,” Ed Greenberg, a spokesman for Canadian Pacific told FoxNews.com. “There has been unprecedented growth in the energy industry.”

The Calgary-based railroad is one of two that carries oil down from Canada's tar sands, but Canadian Pacific also carries thousands of barrels per day to the Gulf from North Dakota's booming Bakken Formation oil fields.

Experts estimate shipping by rail instead of pipeline adds anywhere from $5 to $10 to the price of a barrel, not to mention the high-capacity, 24-7 flow a pipeline affords. Rep. Fred Upton, (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, says the explosive growth of oil delivery by rail underscores the missed opportunity of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a Canada-to-Texas oil pipeline that became bogged down by environmental concerns and was ultimately tabled by the Obama administration and the Democrat-controlled Senate.

"We need to be doing all we can to develop our resources, particularly now, with rising gasoline prices and the threat of supply disruptions overseas," Upton told FoxNews.com. "Most observers acknowledge that rail transport is the best option we currently have to get this oil down to the refineries -- but the Keystone XL pipeline presents us with a better alternative."

Supporters of the pipeline, which the Obama administration plans to consider again after the 2012 election, say it would not only lower the price of a barrel of oil, but that it would also provide jobs. TransCanada, the company seeking to build the pipeline, has estimated it would generate 130,000 jobs, a number endorsed by Republican supporters of the pipeline. But Democrats cite a study by Cornell University that places the number at just 5,000 jobs.

With the pipeline in limbo, trains are the next-best way to move the oil south to the thirsty refineries on the Texas and Louisiana coasts, Michael Ervin, a petroleum industry analyst based in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, told FoxNews.com.

“The use of rail as a short-term solution to pipeline capacity limitations was a likely approach either with or without the additional production,” Ervin said. “It is more a matter of a lack of pipeline capacity, which in turn is depressing domestic crude oil prices of all types in the Midwest and Canada as well.”

Oil companies are investing their own money in the older mode of transport, said Tony Hatch, a New York-based transportation and railroad industry analyst, noting that Hess Oil is among the latest companies to buy its own rail tankers. He said even if the pipeline ultimately gets built, rail transport will be a piece of the puzzle.

“The markets are ready for the oil now," said Tony Hatch, a New York-based transportation and railroad industry analyst. "It’s clear that they are investing in rail even when and if a pipeline is built."



Film at 11.... 😟
jetblasted
14 years ago
Well, we made a stop in Albuquerque
She musta thought
I was a real cool jerk
Got off the train, and put her hands up
Lookin' so good, I couldn't let her go
😎
rfenst
14 years ago



Supporters of the pipeline, which the Obama administration plans to consider again after the 2012 election, say it would not only lower the price of a barrel of oil, but that it would also provide jobs. TransCanada, the company seeking to build the pipeline, has estimated it would generate 130,000 jobs, a number endorsed by Republican supporters of the pipeline. But Democrats cite a study by Cornell University that places the number at just 5,000 jobs.

DrafterX wrote:




How many times must I write that the pipeline WILL get approved by Obama? If not until after the election, you can sure darn bet he will strongly favor it during the election and more vehemently as the election cycle progresses.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

How many times must I write that the pipeline WILL get approved by Obama? If not until after the election, you can sure darn bet he will strongly favor it during the election and more vehemently as the election cycle progresses.

rfenst wrote:



You would support such a man? An administration that holds an entire economy hostage while he's somehow making back room deals with donors? This is your Hope and Change? You got robbed!

You can write it as many times as he and his Mensa club member Chu pat themselves on their backs! No movement and Buffett and his trains are makin' da chedda!

Remember folks...those trains pay more in taxes than Warren Buffett!


http://www.cigarbid.com/Forum/c/posts/613342/Obamas-Pipe-Dream-Could-Grease-Chinas-Energy-Skids 


Here's the Kenyan King's game.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/21/usa-keystone-obama-idUSL1E8QL0G320120321 

He's all for it...it's those evil departments in DC...they don't like it...they hate America!
DrafterX
14 years ago
He's in Oklahoma right now and plans to take credit for a Pipeline being between Cushing and Texas somewhere.... We didn't need his approval to build this leg but it's an opportunity for him I guess... 😟
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
Isn't that nice.

It would be even better if he actually said..."I was wrong about America's energy situation and I've instructed the Energy and Interior Departments to vigorously look for ways to reverse the path I charted when I was running for this office. I was wrong on coal, and I was wrong on "Drill Baby Drill". America needs cheaper energy sources to maintain a strong and healthy economy and I'm recommitting myself and my administration to doing just that."

I'd also like to see a long list of people that he would be sending down the river on criminal charges but one can dream.
HockeyDad
14 years ago
I wonder if he'll talk up the wind farms in western Oklahoma.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

I wonder if he'll talk up the wind farms in western Oklahoma.

HockeyDad wrote:




You mean the bird and bat killing farms? The ones that have to be shut off because they're dumping too much energy onto the grid?

:-&
HockeyDad
14 years ago
The birds and bats were going to die eventually. We just make them deadier.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

The birds and bats were going to die eventually. We just make them deadier.

HockeyDad wrote:





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Tsk...tsk...tsk


If you're going to do it...do it right!

We don't make the birds and bats die...we make the birds and bats that die deadier.

The PSA has been brought to by...
























































The GLOBALISTS!
DrafterX
14 years ago
those windfarms are impressive from the air... I had no idea there were that many in operation... 😟
HockeyDad
14 years ago
Little know fact: They are actually powered by the get exhaust of all the airplanes that fly over!

Flyover state wind farm outrage!
DrafterX
14 years ago
Speech from the pipeyard about to begin..... 🤔
DrafterX
14 years ago
yep, he took credit for the wind farms... 🤣
DrafterX
14 years ago
I don't know why I ever doubted him... he didn't stop the pipeline, it was the media and those bassards in Congress... 🤦
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

I don't know why I ever doubted him... he didn't stop the pipeline, it was the media and those bassards in Congress... 🤦

DrafterX wrote:



Let's not confuse the issue with FACTS!

Obama lobbying against Keystone pipeline


President Barack Obama’s deputies are defending his lobbying against a GOP effort in the Senate to fast-track approval of the job-creating Keystone XL oil pipeline from Canada.

GOP leaders in the Senate are pressing the chamber’s Democratic leadership for a vote on the fast-track bill Mar. 8, but Obama has called Democratic Senators to urge them to vote against the GOP measure.

“The president has communications with some members of Congress… he’s made some phone calls, I’ll confirm that,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said Mar. 8. Carney declined to say how many Senators were called by Obama, or if other Administration leaders called Senators to vote against the fast-track bill.

Carney slammed the GOP’s fast-track bill as an “irresponsible” effort “to curry favor with some political constituency or another.”

Polls show the pipeline is supported by most Americans, and by some Democratic-affiliated groups such as construction unions.

GOP leaders have been hammering away at Obama for blocking the pipeline, which advocates argue would employ thousands of construction workers, deliver more oil to U.S. refineries on the Gulf of Mexico, and reduce U.S. reliance on oil from Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries.

“It appears the president remains firmly committed to killing the Keystone pipeline, despite the fact that it enjoys strong support from the American people,” said a statement from House Speaker John Boehner.

“What’s worse, by lobbying against American jobs, President Obama is pushing North American energy closer to China,” added the statement.

If passed, the approval would be a political defeat for Obama, trump his regulatory rejection of the bill, and allow for more oil to be imported from Canada.

White House officials say they want the pipeline approval process to go through the Department of State, which has already delayed approval for the pipeline past the November election. The delay was imposed late 2011 after protests from environmental groups important to Obama’s reelection campaign.

“We will ensure any project receives the important assessment it deserves [at the State Department], and the Administration will base a decision to provide a permit on the completion of that review,” the White House said in a statement.

Obama’s opposition to the Keystone XL pipeline is entwined with his ambitious effort to regulate the nation’s energy sector and promote alternative energy sources such as wind, solar and biomass. Congressional approval of the pipeline would be seen a a partial repudiation of his agenda.

Obama’s lobbying was first disclosed by Politico.


http://news.yahoo.com/obama-lobbying-against-keystone-pipeline-201208007.html 
DrafterX
14 years ago
But he just said he wanted it.... 😕
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

But he just said he wanted it.... 😕

DrafterX wrote:




Did he call Carney a liar?

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DrafterX
14 years ago
there's not a fair here right now... he didn't take any questions either... 😟
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

there's not a fair here right now... he didn't take any questions either... 😟

DrafterX wrote:




Energy was a particular obsession of the president-elect’s, and therefore a particular source of frustration. Week after week, [White House economic adviser Christina] Romer would march in with an estimate of the jobs all the investments in clean energy would produce; week after week, Obama would send her back to check the numbers. “I don’t get it,” he’d say. “We make these large-scale investments in infrastructure. What do you mean, there are no jobs?” But the numbers rarely budged.

http://blog.american.com/2012/03/the-entire-obama-presidency-in-one-anecdote/ 
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