The individual goes on to say that this election cycle may be our last chance to save our constitution by rejecting the CINOS and elect true Christians to the Presidency, Congress and State Legislators. The one thing he forgot to mention is. Who are the true christians? Maybe some of the cigarbid forum people can weigh in with an opinion or let us know who you think the true christians are. I thought his article was well written, but a little / lot hypocritical and pretty damn funny. It brought to mind a song from Pat McCurdy called GOD. Google it and read the lyrics. I think this article writer thinks this is " What God Likes " Read the lyrics and you will see what I am talking about.

I put this out here for discussion only. It would be interseting to see what you think, and maybe some good feed back.

IF920

Some lefties don't like being preached to, some hate religion and some want to abolish organized religion and prefer communism.

Plenty of lefties also go to church as well.

Some lefties don't like being preached to, some hate religion and some want to abolish organized religion and prefer communism.

Plenty of lefties also go to church as well.

But he's the best option...

Though from what you said, it doesn't sound like he's afraid of government hurting religion, but that a lack of religion will hurt government- i.e. turn into a "dictatorial type of government rule." Though liberals are unlikely to create such a government because that sort of authoritarianism goes against the spirit of liberalism.

As far as who the "real Christians" are - I assume that you are using this as generic reference for all "good people" (not just Christians per se, otherwise I would have to question your motives) - you will know them by their acts not necessarily by their speech.

Nice to meetcha, IF920.

I'm not sure it's misquoted: "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

This was during his presidency as well, and is often considered the basic effect of the first amendment. If the founding fathers felt like the country should maintain christian roots, why did they immediately create an amendment preventing it?

^^^Yup

They did not want a Government that was guided by the specific tenets of any ONE denomination or religion for that matter. They had, however, incorporated their Judeo-Christian beliefs into every day American life. This is evident every time a secularist attempts to shut down prayer, nativity scenes, mention of God, and other religious traditions intertwined into our culture.

I'm not sure they incorporated them specifically, or rather if people grouped by culture naturally did in their specific areas, and the "secular" attempts at removing them are simply the original Bill of Rights finally reaching those holdouts. I mean, it wasn't until the 14th amendment that the Bill of Rights applied on a state level. Let's also not forget what other cultural aspects were incorporated into every day life by early Americans even though it was against the spirit of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and were also later removed by additional amendments and court cases, such as slavery and a lack of women's rights.

I am curious why, particularly lately, republican candidates feel the need to stress how their religion has and will influence their decision making. This is a major departure from past candidates, who had to stress how religion would NOT influence their decision making, while still showing that they had a religious side.

They could teach it in schools! It's repression if you are against such an idea. Just teach the controversy.

Let the record show that I have never repressed a soul!

Thank God! I mean, Zenu. Sorry.