yardobeef
Monday, April 16, 2012 12:48:11 PM
Since I'm still wet behind the ears, I have not experienced this yet, but I have heard several people mention that there are cigars that they used to love and now dislike because of changing tastes. So I thought I'd start a thread on the subject.

What typically happens, boredom? or a desire for stronger smokes?

Which brands/styles did you used to like, but now do not?

Does it ever go the other way, where cigars you used to hate you now find enjoyable?

Thanks.

Buckwheat
Monday, April 16, 2012 12:57:31 PM
Try taking a break and see if your old favorites don't "come around" again. I always tried to smoke like I pitched; kind of all over the place.
z6joker9
Monday, April 16, 2012 1:31:08 PM
Interestly enough, your tastes don't always change to stronger.

Aside from my quality going up over the years (from CI bundles to boutiques), the main difference I've seen is a stronger preference for certain vitolas, especially away from large ring gauges and towards smaller ones. For instance, the more lanceros I smoke, the more I like them.

hoyodude
Monday, April 16, 2012 4:41:07 PM
I've found that part of the reason for my going off cigars I used to love is the fact that these are a product made from organic material and, just like wine, some years are better than others. It's often referred to as "bottle variation" with wine. Also, sometimes a maker will use one type of leaf (or the same type bought from another grower) swapped out for other leaves which will also cause a change in the cigar flavor. Some brands change their flavor profile altogether and it never comes back, i.e., everything Villazon makes, Torano, Rocky Patel and a bunch of others. For me many of those brands have gone from favorites to unsmokeables and it isn't just my desire for stronger cigars.

I did find, as the years went by, that I was drawn more and more towards heavier bodied, stronger cigars for awhile and, mostly, that's what I go for now. But I also found that, as I experienced more blend variations and with the arrival of newer marca's, my palate began to expand. I now enjoy many cigars from all flavor spectrums - mild, medium and strong - dependent upon the overall experience I get from the cigar. A mild cigar can be very complex while a butt-kicker might be one-dimensional and boring.

Just my .02, which won't buy you a damn thing these days... 🌫

smokestaxx
Monday, April 16, 2012 5:49:01 PM
I've always liked a sronger cigar, but recently I've been more picky on what vitola I'm searching out
nnightmar
Monday, April 16, 2012 6:33:37 PM
Think it is mostly about the greater quality and diversity of selection.
Rut-Ro!
Monday, April 16, 2012 6:50:10 PM

I've found that part of the reason for my going off cigars I used to love is the fact that these are a product made from organic material and, just like wine, some years are better than others. It's often referred to as "bottle variation" with wine. Also, sometimes a maker will use one type of leaf (or the same type bought from another grower) swapped out for other leaves which will also cause a change in the cigar flavor. Some brands change their flavor profile altogether and it never comes back, i.e., everything Villazon makes, Torano, Rocky Patel and a bunch of others. For me many of those brands have gone from favorites to unsmokeables and it isn't just my desire for stronger cigars.

I did find, as the years went by, that I was drawn more and more towards heavier bodied, stronger cigars for awhile and, mostly, that's what I go for now. But I also found that, as I experienced more blend variations and with the arrival of newer marca's, my palate began to expand. I now enjoy many cigars from all flavor spectrums - mild, medium and strong - dependent upon the overall experience I get from the cigar. A mild cigar can be very complex while a butt-kicker might be one-dimensional and boring.

Just my .02, which won't buy you a damn thing these days... 🌫

hoyodude wrote:

YES!

AND it's not the kill- but the thrill of the chase.

Today's cigars are somewhat different from cigars say five years ago. Different strains of tobacco, soil, growing conditions produce many new and different variations of leaf.

I hope i didn't step in poo poo.........lol

gimbel
Monday, April 16, 2012 7:11:29 PM
Many cigars I started out with, and enjoyed, get sent to the troops now. It's not that they're not good smokes, I just like different cigars now. I went the route of stronger is better at first and am now on my way back down the chain. I'm finding that I'm able to pick up, and appreciate, the subtle flavors found in medium and mild cigars.
banderl
Monday, April 16, 2012 7:32:00 PM
Used to smoke nothing but White Owls but now I've been enjoying Phillies and Black and Milds on a regular basis.
Rclay
Monday, April 16, 2012 9:30:08 PM
Dearest Yardobeef, it is a confluence of events that begins in a tobacco field and ends in your mouth. Any day you can smoke a cigar, even a bad one, is a good day.
delta1
Monday, April 16, 2012 9:56:03 PM

I've found that part of the reason for my going off cigars I used to love is the fact that these are a product made from organic material and, just like wine, some years are better than others. It's often referred to as "bottle variation" with wine. Also, sometimes a maker will use one type of leaf (or the same type bought from another grower) swapped out for other leaves which will also cause a change in the cigar flavor. Some brands change their flavor profile altogether and it never comes back, i.e., everything Villazon makes, Torano, Rocky Patel and a bunch of others. For me many of those brands have gone from favorites to unsmokeables and it isn't just my desire for stronger cigars.

I did find, as the years went by, that I was drawn more and more towards heavier bodied, stronger cigars for awhile and, mostly, that's what I go for now. But I also found that, as I experienced more blend variations and with the arrival of newer marca's, my palate began to expand. I now enjoy many cigars from all flavor spectrums - mild, medium and strong - dependent upon the overall experience I get from the cigar. A mild cigar can be very complex while a butt-kicker might be one-dimensional and boring.

Just my .02, which won't buy you a damn thing these days... 🌫

hoyodude wrote:

well put...I concur

hambone71
Monday, April 16, 2012 10:13:16 PM

Dearest Yardobeef, it is a confluence of events that begins in a tobacco field and ends in your mouth. Any day you can smoke a cigar, even a bad one, is a good day.

Rclay wrote:

=d>

smokestaxx
Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:12:33 AM

Used to smoke nothing but White Owls but now I've been enjoying Phillies and Black and Milds on a regular basis.

banderl wrote:

lol you have good taste uncle B [frypan]

njstone
Tuesday, April 17, 2012 3:20:20 AM
There are lots of factors. For me, the main two are:

1) Having tried so many more cigars now, ones that used to be favorites have fallen far down on the list now. Not that I hate them now or anything, there are just lots of cigars I'd rather smoke.

2) As my palate has developed, I'm able to get more out of cigars than I did before. Because of that, cigars with more complexity of flavor are more interesting to me than they used to be. I still smoke some "one trick pony" cigars, but now I recognize them as such. Also, I am now able to get a lot of flavor out of full-bodied cigars, which when I was a noob tended to taste like nothing but pepper and muddy/muted flavors.

DrMaddVibe
Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:05:38 AM

I've always liked a sronger cigar, but recently I've been more picky on what vitola I'm searching out

smokestaxx wrote:

Spot on...the vitola DOES make a difference!

I can enjoy a mild cigar if it has something to it. I suppose the same can be said about any cigar then.

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