tank71663
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:49:00 AM
I've got a whole bunch of opinions...

But Mrs.Tank is sleepin right now so I don't know what they are...

Tank

CWFoster
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:53:00 AM
Most folks can't seem to get away from short-term thinking. It'll probably work.
Drathaar
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:06:00 AM
I can't read the link till I get home, or after I get up. But I just want to say...that was pretty funny Tank 🙂
TBWCW
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:54:00 AM
My opinion is that GM is finding it hard to sell vehicles and that this might help in the short term. Long term? GM is in big trouble. GM and Ford have been shedding US market share at a rapid pace, Toyota is incredibly effective at driving down costs and maintaining high reliability, and GM has a bloated, inflexible infrastructure and a major supplier in bankruptcy. It could be the beginning of the end, or it could be the beginning of a much smaller but more competitive GM. Regardless, this promotion is a decent idea to help them move vehicles and hopefully hold off bankruptcy for a few more months.
rugrunner
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:54:00 AM
I heard on the news yesterday that the sales of big SUV's hasn't dropped much due to gas prices nationwide.

I would assume that in CA where the gas is much higher do to state laws, they are having more of a problem moving them and they want to sell them there because they are made with all the BS that CA mandates that other states don't. This makes the car more expensive and if they ship it to MN they won't be able to charge as much and they loose more money then they will by giving out the rebates.

Or they are in cahoots with Bush and big oil and they are going to manipulate the gas prices when ever one of these trucks gets to a station. That's why they need the special tracker...

Or the trackers are actually small nukes. Just before the 06 election Bush will detonate them and make CA slide into the ocean (after removing the 6 republican that live there) and declare martial law that will never end and he will be the new king of America until the North American Union starts in 2025.

While my way makes more sense, Rick’s way of thinking is a lot more fun.

adroomi
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:09:00 AM
I think it was in '59 that the soviets launched sputnik. It was a wake-up call to us.

The Chinese showcased thier "under $10K" car in Detroit this year. Somehow we all seem to have missed that wake-up call.

Sumrao
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:16:00 AM
what's that... the chinks are starting to drive?

Hey adroomi did you see my post on value of life. That was an amazing coincidence that they had it on radio the day after our discussion.

andytv
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:16:00 AM
Rickshaws don't count Adroomi!
Sumrao
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:17:00 AM
I know you are going to pimp their rides!!
porschesales225
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:21:00 AM
another gimmick to try and boost sales that will in the end only further their demise. Instead of fixing problems they come up with cool new ways to lose money.
nine999
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:53:00 PM
this **** has been driving for 20+ years

nine

00camper
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:09:00 PM
The gas promotion is a gimmick. Yet another way for GM to lose more money.

Adroomi,

Sputnik was a technological leap which threatened air superiority. A $10,000 car isn't all that hard to do. The basic technology is more than a hundred years old.

I'm guessing that a technical leap threatening military superiority would be met differently than the $10,000 car announcement.

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:18:00 PM
No difference in this versus rebates - just makes the consumer work harder to get the rebate on the gas, and it would be spread over a year, versus one time - so GM gets the time value of their money, resulting in it costing less than giving rebates. Also, IF and it is a big IF, gas prices come down, costs them less. Results will be the same, most people will avoid and buy something that costs less to run.

How come they can be creative on their financing gimicks, but not on developing new products?

C3S

adroomi
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:10:00 PM
Chinks?
8trackdisco
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:28:00 PM
I'm starting to get a sick enjoyment watching this bloated, greedy, union pig of a company slowly die.

Sorta how adroomi might feel about America in general.

(might)

adroomi
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:47:00 PM
Yeah Whatever 8track.....
coda
Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:07:00 PM
nine999:

You are a ****? You should have chosen a more ethnic handle so we'd have something to base our stereotypes on. So unfair!

(J/K)

TBWCW
Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:11:00 AM
Toyota isn't worried about competition from GM and Ford. They are worried about competition from the Chinese. They consider the Koreans to now be making top quality vehicles, and anticipate that the Chinese will hit that level of quality in a much shorter period of time than it took the Koreans.