http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/02/vaccine-denial-psychology-backfire-effect 

I'd like to think that even if you're anti-vaccine, you might find the study interesting.

Bottom line - They found that providing individuals who are anti-vaccine with varying types of information about vaccines (from safety, lack of cause of other diseases as well as the effects of the diseases) this INCREASED the anti-vaccine stance of those who were already against it.

It's sort of an interesting issue.

The point of this particular post isn't to be pro or anti vaccine (even tho the article IS pro-vaccine). I just find it interesting that the people who ARE anti-vaccine are not being swayed by information which one would normally expect to sway an individual under normal circumstances... It's just an interesting point in the debate.

Why? Can't you sniff out lies especially from sources who have a track record for misrepresenting and leaving out things? I'm not surprised at all.

I will read the article in askance. My kids (and other's I know) were affected by vaccines SEVERAL times. I say several because we foolishly took the advice of supposed learned medical sources who told us that what happened was a coincidence and we should continued the vaccine schedules- resulting in regressions within 1 or 2 days depending on the child.

Some reliable websites for parents of kids damaged by vaccines seeking therapies:

autism.com

AgeofAutism.com

generationRescue.org

DrAmyYasko.com

and for nutrigenomic testing (tells you what vitamins & minerals are deficient in your kids' systems): www.holisticheal.com

That has an interesting implication in religious arguments as well.

Irrational thought is extremely difficult to change. For example based on various studies between 20% and 25% of Americans believe the earth is the center of the universe. That figure is staggering.

People naturally fill in blanks (missing data) to complete a picture and from then on it is fact. Even though it isn't really fact. If you try to confront them with something empirical that contradicts the facts they saw with their own eyes, the empirical data must be skewed or there is some sort of conspiracy. It is natural human behavior. Couple that with a rejection of science as this that or the other and you have a license to live in la la land. Add in entities that stroke that beleif and you have full on willy wankaland.

My favorite logic in here is; Wheel is gay. Wheel lives in North Mexico. North Mexicans are gay.

Any policeman will tell you when they interview six people that witness a crime you would think there were six separate crimes. To those people what they saw is a fact.

Great goobly goop! Random thoughts by Jack Handy.

Note: W@nkaland is edited. W A N K is a naughty word that 21 year olds must be saved from?

Excellent point... but then when you dig further and do a little extra research on studies meant to dispel doubts on vaccines, you sometimes find that the facts don't stand on their own or have been gleaned from manipulated research which is either exclusive of important data which hinders their conclusion OR buttresses their preconceived notions. Simple- trash in trash out. Those who question this pseudo scientific research are then labeled as quacks oftentime by journalists who have a vested interest ($$$) in pharma. The other medical "credentialed" folks who attack the anti-vaccine movement remind me of Hitler's scientists who proved that the "Aryan" was superior or that their artists who created marginal work on canvas and marble were gifted. BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA.

Yes, I and many other parents have experienced things with our own eyes. Sometimes you have to take the word of what you see over what you hear especially if the "established" government subsidized studies eliminate age groups, nationalities, or limit the post-vaccine time studied. Shut your eyes wide open and pretend you know the truth. Pathetic.

That all seems logical and void of emotion. Totally fact based and does not prove the point at all.

Every era seems to have established shibboleths worshiped by fawning lemmings afraid to rock the boat and afraid of repercussion.=p~