phillipcgp
12 years ago
so about done with the frame and door on my humidor, should have a great seal, but wondering should i plumb into the a/c and put a small, maybe 2-3 inch, vent into it? i keep the house around 73, but since it will be sealed off, i dont know how much cooling the glass door will allow. plus this would give me air circulation and could skip fans. i know a/c in general reduce humidity but that is at the condenser and this technically shouldnt allow any moisture to release into the house.
mikey1597
12 years ago
Here's a thought. If you duct in A/C and vent it out don't you loose your humidity because of the air displacement? The dry air in will pick up your humidified air and carry it out thru the vent causing your humidifier to work harder and probably not holding a good Rh because of the change of load, i.e.. your A/C turning on and off. If your humidor is in the center of the house and not on an outside wall I wouldn't do it.
TMCTLT
12 years ago
I would NOT recommend this
phillipcgp
12 years ago
K works for me
knokmdwn
12 years ago

Here's a thought. If you duct in A/C and vent it out don't you loose your humidity because of the air displacement? The dry air in will pick up your humidified air and carry it out thru the vent causing your humidifier to work harder and probably not holding a good Rh because of the change of load, i.e.. your A/C turning on and off. If your humidor is in the center of the house and not on an outside wall I wouldn't do it.

mikey1597 wrote:




WHAT?!?!?!?!? How could this be?? Both my desktops are plumbed with a/c in and out and so is my big cabinet! I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!!!










































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Legacy
12 years ago
Texas and TMC are giving you sound advice. Just to add to the discussion:

Any air coming directly from an A/C will already have reduced humidity. While you want circulation you don't want active air flow that will dry out cigars (especially with already low humidity air) and spread dust (and spores). Unless the air is filtered (HEPA quality) you will be positing any airborne pathogens and spores directly into your humidor and absolutely onto any Spanish (naked) sticks.

Possible ways to deal with 73 degrees:
1 - Wet the glass and the evaporation will cool the glass. Not pretty but it will work (repeat as needed).
2 - Make certain that there's NO sunlight that hits the humidor. Cover it with a light colored cloth (reflect light).
3 - Not all rooms or areas of a room will be 73. Take temp readings in different possible locations for the humidor.
4 - Insure that you're not near a heat source (remember heater pipes or vents).
5 - Keep the humidor low to the ground (heat rises).
6 - Drop the temperature to 70. Costs a little more but the sticks that you save...

A humidor will seal in heat so at 73 you have no latitude for higher temperatures. Remember, if the box is in an A/C room you will need to check the humidity more often. Good luck.

Pete
madspackler
12 years ago
In order to avoid any potential problems with your smokes, you really need to consider the following::
1 - separate humidification for this space, and because of its size and the number of cigars you potentially are storing, a back-up system to maintain the humidity at 65-68%. Think along the lines of Heartfelt beads and small fans to move the air; or add a Humid-air system to ensure sufficient humidity.
2 - Lower temperatures for the cigar storage area - keep it between 68-70 degrees to reduce any potential cigar beetle hatches as well as prolong the life of your smokes. Higher temps are not conducive for good long term storage.

Good luck

Buckwheat
12 years ago
If it is in your budget, I would go ahead and run a small duct and see what happens. Running the duct work will give you options. You can always seal it off if it messes with your RH too much (which I think it will). I would put in a dampener to shut it off when/if you run heat. Options are a good thing.
phillipcgp
12 years ago
the only reason i thought it might not be too bad, is the relative humidity here in FL already, right now its 82, other days 100, guess i could put a small hygro at one of the vents and see what its blowing out at, but probably easier to just forget, seems to be alot more worries than just the temp
phillipcgp
12 years ago
and trying to keep a house where i live at 70 or below is about impossible, just trying to find a happy medium
triodes
12 years ago

and trying to keep a house where i live at 70 or below is about impossible, just trying to find a happy medium

phillipcgp wrote:



I don't see how people in FL get by without Wineadors.

I live in SC, and can see people here making it work, but when it gets hot here I like for the house to be warmer so that you are not going to such an extreme temperature shift when going in and out. So, my main storage is a wineador.

The coolest place in the house I can find in the summer for overflow coolidors is in a basement walkin closet is 71 or so, and that has me concerned enough that I will probably an additional wineador soon.

One year my coolidor got beetles - hadn't moved it from a landing between floors back down to the walkin when summer came.

Had to toss everything, luckily I didn't have that much at the time and most of it was relatively cheap.

I shudder to think of getting beetles in a closet sized unit filled with decent cigars.

Even a large coolidor filled with nice smokes will run into some money lost if cigars are lost, so another wineador is in my future.
phillipcgp
12 years ago
Ive asked around to many many people around here and have yet to find one with a wineador. Even 2 diff managers of diff Smoke Inns say its a waste of money. So dunno, hoping for the best.
scompay
12 years ago
you have a good idea, half way right. I am surprised no one was able to complete it for ya.

Here is what you can do, run a insulated duct to the room- then make snake in the room as much as possible- take the insulation off it (use a metal duct) and make it run back out of the room again. It will act like a refrigerator and no air will actually come inside the humidor. You can also make a sheetmetal box that fits your ceiling (the guys at the hvac supply house will happily make you one) (they even have pre made boxes as such), you can also use rectangular deyvents, they have an opening on each end, you can chain them together. I have attached a link below. Any of these will give you the cooling you need.

Lowering the whole house temperature is a terrible idea, you wont lower the temp in the humidor and spend several hundred extra each year.

Hope it helps.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Whirlpool-0-18-in-Dryer-Periscope-4396037RP/202204728 

Two tips: remember the box will sweat so leave 1/2" space between it and drywall, or put plastic down. Cold air sinks.
phillipcgp
12 years ago
Scompay, u read my mind, was just sitting here toying with this idea as well. Thanks a bunch
scompay
12 years ago
I forgot, install a damper ($15) it will allow you to set the temperature in the room.

BTW another HUGE benefit of doing what you want to do, is that folks forget in FL you dont need a humidifier you need a dehumidifier.


Quick question, what is the normal outside humidity where you live?
phillipcgp
12 years ago
just a quick check, average daily LOW was 63 HIGH was 95
phillipcgp
12 years ago
here where i am, April has the lowest of 56
scompay
12 years ago

just a quick check, average daily LOW was 63 HIGH was 95

phillipcgp wrote:



Yeah you dont even need a humidifier.
You know the cubans (90 miles from you) dont need no stinking humidifiers either.

So this is what I would do, if you have a wall to spare, do that duct trick on that whole wall and put a drip pan under it.

Another idea is getting a portable ac. i have one that is also a dehumidifier, gave $150 for it at Sams. The beauty of these units is that they wont take air outside your humi- which means that it will only circulate air inside. It also has a fan only mode. Comes with a remote and a very precise digital control. Think about it another way, you will be buying the best humidifier for your humidor.

* you will find those ac units on clearance because some fool returned them after realizing it cant cool his whole house. And Sams' has a lifetime warranty.
phillipcgp
12 years ago
ive got one already for hurricane season, but it wouldnt fit in there. its only a linen closet, not a regular bedroom one. i think the footing is 17 x 19 or somthing like that, but is 9 feet tall. i think i will try to have some pipe bent into a coil for the top and that will allow the cooler air to drop down. there is a 18 inch hidden space at the top so it wouldnt be seen anyways. it will have fans running at random interv at top and bottom, so all will stabilize.
scompay
12 years ago

ive got one already for hurricane season, but it wouldnt fit in there. its only a linen closet, not a regular bedroom one. i think the footing is 17 x 19 or somthing like that, but is 9 feet tall. i think i will try to have some pipe bent into a coil for the top and that will allow the cooler air to drop down. there is a 18 inch hidden space at the top so it wouldnt be seen anyways. it will have fans running at random interv at top and bottom, so all will stabilize.

phillipcgp wrote:




Perfect idea bro.

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