TMCTLT
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Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:47:39 AM
Is anyone else's Reps. Working on this Bill that your aware of? I FULLY support Mr. Rokita in his efforts to get this Bill passed!!!

H.R. 4934 would repeal the expansion of paramilitary and police capabilities given to federal regulatory agencies. This legislation would also prohibit federal agencies, other than those traditionally tasked with enforcing federal law, such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and U.S. Marshals, from purchasing weaponry regulated under the National Firearms Act. This bill also directs the Government Accountability Office (GAO) to write a report detailing all federal agencies with specialized units falling outside of regular law enforcement officers.

I believe that the militarization of agencies is a symptom of a deeper problem in Washington – that the federal government no longer trusts the American people. H.R. 4934 would restore and rebuild this trust by defunding the paramilitary capabilities within the federal regulatory agencies.

I guess this is what happens when you lie and cheat the American People.....eventually you have to silence the Lambs

CruzJ
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:56:31 AM
Going only off this snippet of info, I'd support something like this as well. I also think our recent wars have influenced the militarization of law enforcement. Urban warfare tactics we used over there are being used more and more here. Not to mention all the new and modernized gear that has come out is now being scooped up by everybody cause they think it looks cool.
gryphonms
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:58:48 AM
TMCTLT is absolutely correct. I have written my congressmen to support this bill. I would urge everyone here to do the same.
TMCTLT
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Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:00:17 PM

TMCTLT is absolutely correct. I have written my congressmen to support this bill. I would urge everyone here to do the same.

gryphonms wrote:

Ah huh finally sumpin we CAN agree on brother Gryph 🍺

DrMaddVibe
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:06:10 PM
Rip the BDU's off the cops too...that disgusts me to no end...bunch of Barney Fife's getting their GI Joe on...F' em!
gryphonms
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:19:47 PM
TMCTLT, I am in an azz hat mood. I think I am doing a good job of being an azz hat. This to shall pass. You caught the brunt of it. I am a numbers guy who wants to use numbers to support my position. If you go back and read my posts, which I not asking you to, you will find I am usually asking questions looking to support a position with statistical proof. Once I got you going it was to much fun to stop which I will now. My only liberal tendency is the ethical treatment of animals, though in no way do I support the PETA nut jobs. I am actually a civil libertarian.
CruzJ
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:26:02 PM

bunch of Barney Fife's getting their GI Joe on...F' em!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

=d>

teedubbya
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:42:04 PM
H.R.3934 -- Passenger Fee Restructuring Exemptions Act of 2014 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 3934 IH

113th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 3934

To amend title 49, United States Code, to exempt certain flights from increased aviation security service fees.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 27, 2014

Ms. GABBARD (for herself, Ms. HANABUSA, and Mr. YOUNG of Alaska) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Homeland Security

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A BILL

To amend title 49, United States Code, to exempt certain flights from increased aviation security service fees.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Passenger Fee Restructuring Exemptions Act of 2014'.

SEC. 2. EXCEPTIONS TO RESTRUCTURING OF PASSENGER FEE.

(a) In General- Section 44940(c) of title 49, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by striking `Fees imposed' and inserting the following:

`(1) IN GENERAL- Except as provided by paragraph (2), fees imposed'; and

(2) by adding at the end the following:

`(2) EXCEPTIONS- Fees imposed under subsection (a)(1) may not exceed $2.50 per enplanement, and the total amount of such fees may not exceed $5.00 per one-way trip, for passengers--

`(A) boarding to an eligible place under subchapter II of chapter 417 for which essential air service compensation is paid under that subchapter; or

`(B) on flights, including flight segments, between 2 or more points in Hawaii or 2 or more points in Alaska.'.

(b) Conforming Amendment- Section 601(d) of the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2013 is amended in the matter preceding paragraph (1) by inserting `, as modified by the amendments made by section 2 of the Passenger Fee Restructuring Exemptions Act of 2014' after `subsection (b)'.

teedubbya
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:47:58 PM
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Thunder.Gerbil
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:48:56 PM
Too funny TW.

Next thing you know, someone will start ranting to have dihydrogen monoxide banned

Buckwheat
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:51:00 PM

TMCTLT is absolutely correct. I have written my congressmen to support this bill. I would urge everyone here to do the same.

gryphonms wrote:

Why do you think any congressman gives two chits what the general populous has to say on any issue? The only way to be heard is to give millions to their campaigns. 😣

Ban Ice-nine!!! 🌫

DrafterX
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:51:50 PM

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teedubbya wrote:

:-k

but gyrokraut said he wrote his congress dude about this..... 😟

victor809
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 3:43:23 PM
Hey TCBY....

Given TW's information, good thing you used the word "guess" there.

Abrignac
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 3:51:13 PM

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teedubbya wrote:

Really????

You obviously have no idea how things are done in DC. Don't you remember that the ACA was a completely gutted and re-written VA bill so it could originate in the Senate instead of the House were spending bills are supposed to come from.

gryphonms
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:03:23 PM
HR 4934 is the rereferenced bill.
teedubbya
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:04:24 PM

Really????

You obviously have no idea how things are done in DC. Don't you remember that the ACA was a completely gutted and re-written VA bill so it could originate in the Senate instead of the House were spending bills are supposed to come from.

Abrignac wrote:

I work a lot with pending legislation and regs. I may have even worked extensively with the ACA. Thats why I went to the source document. Given the title of the thread HR 3934 I'd think it would have to be House Resolution rather than the Senate.

What you are quoting from me is nothing more than a cut and paste of the results on the search terms I used. I can't find anything in the house (or Senate).

teedubbya
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:07:29 PM

HR 4934 is the rereferenced bill.

gryphonms wrote:

Much better. it doesn't mention paramilitary etc. This is such a short bill why not go to the source document rather than paraphrase it using terms not in the bill? On the surface I have no problem supporting this one either unless someone could give me legitimate reasons for other agencies to be armed not based on a knee jerk reaction to either side of the issue.

[Congressional Bills 113th Congress]

[From the U.S. Government Printing Office]

[H.R. 4934 Introduced in House (IH)]

113th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 4934

To prohibit certain Federal agencies from using or purchasing certain

firearms, and for other purposes.

_______________________________________________________________________

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

June 23, 2014

Mr. Stewart (for himself, Mr. Cotton, Mr. Cramer, Mr. Graves of

Missouri, Mr. McClintock, Mr. Pompeo, Mr. Duncan of South Carolina, Mr.

Bentivolio, Mr. Rokita, Mr. Long, Mr. LaMalfa, Mr. Smith of Nebraska,

Mr. Lankford, Mr. Gohmert, Mr. Salmon, Mr. Rice of South Carolina, and

Mr. Amodei) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the

Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

_______________________________________________________________________

A BILL

To prohibit certain Federal agencies from using or purchasing certain

firearms, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the

United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ``Regulatory Agency Demilitarization

Act''.

SEC. 2. PROHIBITION ON PURCHASE AND USE BY A FEDERAL AGENCY OF

FIREARMS.

(a) Prohibition.--Not later than 30 days after the date of the

enactment of this Act, a Federal agency may not purchase or use a

firearm.

(b) GAO Report.--Not later than 90 days after the date of the

enactment of this Act, and annually thereafter, the Comptroller General

shall submit to Congress a report that includes the following:

(1) Each Federal agency, including the office of Inspector

General for the Federal agency, that has specialized units that

receive special tactical or military-style training or use

hard-plated body armor, shields, or helmets and that respond to

high-risk situations that fall outside the capabilities of

regular law enforcement officers, including any special weapons

and tactics (SWAT) team, tactical response teams, special

events teams, special response teams, or active shooter teams.

(2) A description of each such unit.

(3) A description of the training and weapons of each such

unit.

(4) The criteria for activating each such unit and how

often each such unit was activated for each year of the

previous ten years.

(5) The annual cost of equipping and operating each such

unit.

(6) Any other information that is relevant to understanding

the usefulness and justification for the units.

(c) Definitions.--In this section:

(1) Federal agency.--The term ``Federal agency'' has the

meaning given that term in section 102 of title 40, United

States Code, but does not include--

(A) the Department of Defense;

(B) the Department of Justice;

(C) the Department of Homeland Security;

(D) the Nuclear Regulatory Commission;

(E) the United States Capitol Police;

(F) the Bureau of Diplomatic Security;

(G) the Central Intelligence Agency; and

(H) the military departments (as defined in section

102 of title 5, United States Code).

(2) Firearm.--The term ``firearm'' has the meaning given

that term in section 5845(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of

1986, but does not include a silencer (as defined in section

921 of title 18, United States Code).

SEC. 3. REMOVAL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT POWERS OF INSPECTOR GENERAL AGENTS.

(a) In General.--Section 6 of the Inspector General Act of 1978 (5

U.S.C. App.) is amended--

(1) by striking subsection (e); and

(2) by redesignating subsection (f) as subsection (e).

(b) Effective Date.--Subsection (a) shall take effect on the date

of the enactment of this Act.

Abrignac
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:43:45 PM

I thought you'd be at 3.75. I'm good at 1.88

teedubbya wrote:

TMCTLT
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Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:44:12 PM

HR 4934 is the rereferenced bill.

gryphonms wrote:

Thank you sir, my bad on the typo!!

TMCTLT
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Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:49:48 PM

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teedubbya wrote:

Whatever, nice you have that kind of free time though 🍺