tailgater
Friday, September 5, 2014 4:59:59 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaw/2014/09/04/ncaa-coach-call-to-little-league-star-broke-rule/15066543/ 

Seems that the coach of the UConn women's basketball team spoke with little league phenom Mo'ne davis to congratulate her.

Then some sniveling, dirty douchebag from another team ratted him out to the NCAA for rules violations regarding recruitment.

I hope we find out who the ******-wad is who reported it.

MACS
Friday, September 5, 2014 5:07:42 PM
They said it actually is NOT a Violation because she isn't enrolled in 9th grade yet.

Either way... d*ck move.

delta1
Friday, September 5, 2014 6:58:23 PM
And the NCAA is a bigger douchebag for calling UConn/Auriemma out for this...

oops, if MACS is correct, and the NCAA backed off...................well they're still douches...

tailgater
Saturday, September 6, 2014 6:55:25 PM
Once a potential infraction is reported, the d-bags at the NCAA probably have to look into it.

But this still all boils down to the festering puss bucket who tried to rat him out.

CelticBomber
Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:25:15 AM
I've never been a fan of any college sport but I have always wondered one thing. If the players aren't even allowed to accept a free dinner without getting into trouble where does all the money go? They make millions off these kids. Way more money than the scholarships they give the players would cost. So where does it all go? Is it split up between the Universities and Colleges?
opelmanta1900
Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:48:20 AM
where did the money that the slaves made for the rich plantation owners go?
tailgater
Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:49:35 AM
It's a complicated issue (colleges making "way more money" than the scholarship is worth).

But the kids get invited to attend a top notch school.

They can get a degree without concern of financial burden.

They can showcase their talents to the many pro teams.

Or

They can NOT go to a top notch school.

They can try to market their ability to a pro team on their own.

They can pay to go to school to earn a degree.

opelmanta1900
Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:52:59 AM
sounds like you're trying to justify slavery...
MACS
Sunday, September 7, 2014 1:07:11 PM

sounds like you're trying to justify slavery...

opelmanta1900 wrote:

Ridiculous. Not even comparable. Scholarships to D1 schools go for $40,000 a year PLUS. They also get fed, a place to sleep, etc...

Where the money goes? Title IX. Men's sports bring in the money and it pays scholarships and stuff for women's sports.

Abrignac
Sunday, September 7, 2014 1:07:56 PM

I've never been a fan of any college sport but I have always wondered one thing. If the players aren't even allowed to accept a free dinner without getting into trouble where does all the money go? They make millions off these kids. Way more money than the scholarships they give the players would cost. So where does it all go? Is it split up between the Universities and Colleges?

CelticBomber wrote:

This issue crops up from time to time. There are many who believe that schools like LSU are somewhat nefarious when it comes to football profits. Included in the list of gripes is ad nauseam complaints of abhorrent head coach pay.

A few years ago LSU addressed this as it pertains to them. LSU supports many many sports. Most of which operate at a lost. In a normal situation, a university would have to choose to support these programs at a cost to academic programs, or to cut them out completely. In LSU's case the profits from football operations fund a wide variety of sports including women's basketball, men's and women's lacrosse, etc... Without those profits and in the face of falling state revenues leading to cut backs in, among other things, higher education those programs would cease to exist. In addition, the athletic department also funds construction programs all over the campus.

The issue of coach's pay is in a class all by itself. Many wonder why anyone should be paid ~$4-5M a year to coach football. This parallels the private sector and as such the same arguments are had by each side.

The prevailing wisdom is to pay a top tier coach a salary high enough to keep him from being lured away. Is it prudent to pay a man ~$5M a year to lead a team to a top 10 ranking every year which packs a newly renovated stadium with a 100,000+ person capacity and leads to highly profitable TV contracts? Or should they choose the more politically correct idea to cap the salary. Most big time programs believe doing so will yield a lessor coach whose team will more likely than not finish further down or even out of the rankings and generate WAAAAAY less revenue than is saved in salary.

Personally, I wonder why anyone would consider cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Which brings us to paying college athletes. Make no mistake, scholarship athletes are paid. First off their tuition is waived. At LSU basic instate tuition is per semester is $4370. A meal plan costs $2000 per semester. A dorm room is is about $3200 per semester. As such a student athlete receives at least $7770 per semester. I would also assume their books are paid for. At a minimum they receive at $16,740 in in-kind benefits from the university towards their education.

Add to that access to a state of the art health and fitness center who's membership is highly restricted. Such a facility includes all the weights and machines at your neighborhood health club, but without having to wait much for machines and weights. In a addition, access to top flight trainers and such. Gym benefits are prolly worth $100 a month for the eight months a year they are enrolled bring the total to at least $17,540.

Absent the other un-reported perks a student athlete at LSU makes about $2192 per month for the eight months out of the year they are enrolled. If that athlete wants, he can work the other 4 months to supplement that amount.

So for anyone who would say student athletes aren't paid, it would seem they need to look at the entire picture.

opelmanta1900
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:17:55 PM

Ridiculous. Not even comparable. Scholarships to D1 schools go for $40,000 a year PLUS. They also get fed, a place to sleep, etc...

Where the money goes? Title IX. Men's sports bring in the money and it pays scholarships and stuff for women's sports.

MACS wrote:

the slaves often got free food, free housing, and got to stay on the grounds of a pretty sweet mansion...

opelmanta1900
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:23:19 PM

Ridiculous. Not even comparable. Scholarships to D1 schools go for $40,000 a year PLUS. They also get fed, a place to sleep, etc...

Where the money goes? Title IX. Men's sports bring in the money and it pays scholarships and stuff for women's sports.

MACS wrote:

and by the way, how educated do most of these "student athaletes" actually end up in the end?

you think a $40,000 a year plus education that they don't even get justifies their not making any money off of their own work? you sir are ridiculous...

opelmanta1900
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:26:01 PM

Add to that access to a state of the art health and fitness center who's membership is highly restricted. Such a facility includes all the weights and machines at your neighborhood health club, but without having to wait much for machines and weights. In a addition, access to top flight trainers and such. Gym benefits are prolly worth $100 a month for the eight months a year they are enrolled bring the total to at least $17,540.

Abrignac wrote:

I hear the slaves got access to big field where they could work out all day long... didn't even have to buy their own shovels... it was one of the perks of being a slave...

MACS
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:28:48 PM
Comparing college athletes to slaves is beyond stupid.

A) They have a choice

B) They have freedom to do whatever they want and go wherever they want

C) If they're not getting an education it's their own fault, the opportunity is there if they want it

D) They are not beaten

And once again, allow me to point out that THEY HAVE THE CHOICE.

opelmanta1900
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:31:38 PM

Comparing college athletes to slaves is beyond stupid.

A) They have a choice

B) They have freedom to do whatever they want and go wherever they want

C) If they're not getting an education it's their own fault, the opportunity is there if they want it

D) They are not beaten

And once again, allow me to point out that THEY HAVE THE CHOICE.

MACS wrote:

perhaps your position is beyond stupid for refusing to see the obvious similarities... there are differences, but also similarities... you say they have a choice...

many of the poor black students can either give in to a system that exploits their talents and profits without giving them a penny (like slavery) or they can join a gang in their inner city neighborhood and hope not to die before they're 26...

by the way, slaves had a choice as well... they could run, they could hide, they could kill their masters...it's beyond stupid to think they didn't have a choice...

Abrignac
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:33:20 PM

and by the way, how educated do most of these "student athaletes" actually end up in the end?

you think a $40,000 a year plus education that they don't even get justifies their not making any money off of their own work? you sir are ridiculous...

opelmanta1900 wrote:

They are offered an education and an opportunity. It's no one's fault but their own if they don't avail themselves to the education offered.

It's not like some rich plantation owner is bathing in champagne with the windfall being made from the fruits of their labor. Aside from the head coach, no one is getting rich off their backs. The profits from their labor is spread around the university to the benefit of many.

Your argument that student athletes are slaves is both ignorant and inflammatory. Perhaps you, Al and Jesse out to have a drink and a smoke together.

MACS
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:35:08 PM
If you have white guilt, that's your problem, not mine. There are white athletes, too, you know...

Never mind, man... I'm done with you.

CelticBomber
Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:01:56 PM
I've always wondered about something else. Say they recruit a player and offer him a full scholarship. He gets to the school and doesn't really do well with the team. Is the scholarships these guys are offered for 4 years regardless of how they work out with the team they were recruited for or do they get kicked to the curb if they don't perform up to expectations? I also didn't realize this was such a hot button topic. I think it's great that a football or basketball team allows schools to offer say a woman's team sport scholarship or scholarships for say target shooting or softball. But, I really have no idea about how much money we're talking about either. Are we talking about a team like LSU(saw them mentioned in an article I read today) making over $100 mill for a school a year or anywhere close to that? Or are we talking maybe 30 mill? I don't see anything wrong with the schools paying these guys a stipend so they can go out to eat or buy some nice clothes or afford a decent car either. It's them that's bringing in the money in the first place.
opelmanta1900
Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:09:52 PM

If you have white guilt, that's your problem, not mine. There are white athletes, too, you know...

Never mind, man... I'm done with you.

MACS wrote:

lol... relax yourself macs...

Abrignac
Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:11:50 PM

I've always wondered about something else. Say they recruit a player and offer him a full scholarship. He gets to the school and doesn't really do well with the team. Is the scholarships these guys are offered for 4 years regardless of how they work out with the team they were recruited for or do they get kicked to the curb if they don't perform up to expectations? I also didn't realize this was such a hot button topic. I think it's great that a football or basketball team allows schools to offer say a woman's team sport scholarship or scholarships for say target shooting or softball. But, I really have no idea about how much money we're talking about either. Are we talking about a team like LSU(saw them mentioned in an article I read today) making over $100 mill for a school a year or anywhere close to that? Or are we talking maybe 30 mill? I don't see anything wrong with the schools paying these guys a stipend so they can go out to eat or buy some nice clothes or afford a decent car either. It's them that's bringing in the money in the first place.

CelticBomber wrote:

Who decides how much is enough? Remember college ball is supposed to be an amateur league. I've go an idea. Why don't we convince the NFL to establish a minor league like in baseball. Those players who want to be paid can skip the amateur collegiate league altogether. Forgo the free education. But, what about those who absent the college experience find themselves cast out because their talent didn't measure up. Not only will they not make a living playing football, they are without an education. Then they enter the minimum wage labor pool.