vfrtwice
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:35:00 AM
Just ANOTHER prime example that people dont have a clue when it comes to children!!

I got to watch our sons first T-ball game last night, and all I can say is REDICLOUS!!!

I am sooooo sick and tired of seeing grown adults become completly helpless when it comes to dealing with children!!!!

v

zoinks
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:45:00 AM
What do you mean?

The never striking out? The endless swings? That stupid 6 foot circle around home plate? All innings end after 8 runs because nobody can get anyone out? The fact that they have them on tobacco/alcohol free ground?

The tournaments are the best, everyone gets a trophy.

ruggysgirl
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:00:00 AM
Wow, Zoinks, those are the same rules our kids with disabilities play by. You mean they let normal kids play like handicapped kids?
vfrtwice
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:14:00 AM
EXACTLY!!!

Just another prime example that parents have no clue how to raise a child!

I swear...its like people think its a crime to give a child guidance and dicipline.

"Fun" can be achieved in an organized, learning, diciplined enviroment.. the was shere CHAOS!!!

V

vfrtwice
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:19:00 AM
AND.......if you win... you get a trophy.. and if you LOOSE... you go home with words of encouragement from your parents... NOT A TROPHY!!!!

ok.. It has to be said..the famos ..I am getting old quote...

"When I was a kid"... the winners got to run to the consession stand and get a free pop... the loosers..DIDNT GET JACK SQUAT!!!

When we lost... my dad and i would talk about the game.. the coach would set us down in a circle and ask each of us.."why do you think we lost".. and he wrote those things down.. and we worked on them.

Tee ball is a prime enviroment for a child to learn GREAT things at an early age that will stick with them for the rest of their life... but..the parents need to be a part of it.

All I saw was a bunch of kids that had zero training or guidance from their parents.. it was an EVENING babbysitting session!!!

v

Ram27
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:32:00 AM
Sum na beooootch, go get them V ~

I'm with you 110 % on this ~~~~

Winner's are WINNERS Loser's are just that LOSERS ! ! !

It is part of growing up .

madspackler
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:13:00 AM
The only people being fooled are the parents. The children know who won and who lost. They recognize good players versus poor players. Who ever thought it would be nice if every game was a tie and "they are all winners and no losers" is a moron.

Its a game. In all games someone wins and someone loses. Deal with it folks. Better to learn it now than to believe the fantasy and be shocked later.

I have coached organized youth soccer and little league baseball for over eight years. It is painfull to see that many parents have never taken the time to kick or throw a ball with their own children. Some of the players have never thrown a ball before. Its pathetic. These parents ought to be ashamed of thenselves.

On ocassion you will run across a child of divorce/death where the father is not around at all. It broke my heart to hear the mother tell the child that the coach would teach them to hit or pitch or even throw the ball. I always tried my best to teach the kids, and many of them made great progress, but that can never be replaced by the parents spending time with their children.

People blame society today, but I disagree. If society was to blame for this, then all of the children would have the same disadvantage. But more than half of the children did learn the game from their parents. The other half had slackers for parents or just people who did not care. When parents realize that their children are the future of this world, and start spending quality time with them, the world will be a better place.

Sorry for the rant.

Eric

vfrtwice
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:24:00 AM
excellent...rant!!!

That was the biggest thing I saw last night. Is the children that parents have not taken the time to teach them ANYTHING.. it was truly sad.

Most importatly.. it let me reaize more where I lack at times myself as a parent. It was a blatent reminder to always did deep...get off my a** and be there for my kids.

v

DrafterX
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:30:00 AM
I did the coaching thing for a few years. T-ball and then whatever the next level is. My son was on the team of course and was pretty much the only reason I did it. I was assistant, then coach and then assistant once again. The fund raising, uniform buying, transportation issues were hassles but nothing compared to some of the parents. I'm out there spending my time with my son and his friends and I got slammed almost every game because someone's kid didn't get to play enough or the line-up was wrong or I just didn't know WTF I was doing. I almost hit a woman one day. I can take critisism or insults one on one. In public is another story. I have a lot of respect for little league coaches now. Some anyway. I've seen very unscrupulous activities by some. But thats another story.
nine999
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:30:00 AM
oh man... i can't wait to throw a ball at reese... tackle his inferior ass, slam the ball away.... teach him how to be a good loser-lol

really though, i gotta admit, i plan on putting him through tball & stuff. i just hope i'm not one of those ahole parents that scream and curse at the coaches, refs, other team...but i'm sure i will be. i m such a loudmouth prick.

just gotta remember, i'm doing this for him...not me...

nine

bassdude
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:38:00 AM
come on now - tball is just for pre-k and K. Those kids don't care if they win or lose only the parents do as expressed here. Let them have 2 years of just fun. Yes it is very boring for the parents but the kids(at least here) love it. I am all for trophies to the winners but its friggin Tball for 4-5 year olds.

I have had 3 kids play Tball and I coached as well. We don't keep score, everybody bats there are no outs. It is just for FUN.

Now the following year we keep score, there are outs, a 5 run rule per inning with the last inning unlimited, an end of season tourney and only the top 3 places get trophies.

vfrtwice
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:43:00 AM
I almost feel we are doing our son a disfavor by letting him participate!! lol

He's 6 and cant pretty much crank anything I throw at him.. now he is in T-BALL...uggg.

Hopefully he can be a good example.. make some new friends and help teach some other little kids some things that their parents wont take the time to do....and if he doesnt like it... he can always play golf!! lol ...

v

xibbumbero
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:27:00 AM
How old is your son? Mine was 4 when he played T-ball.

It's an intro to organized sports and it teaches children how to play as a team and develop good sportsmanship. What is wrong w/that?

It ain't the big leagues but it sure was fun to watch. X

vfrtwice
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:00:00 AM
He is 6.. and from what i saw with this group last night.. they are not teaching them ANYTHING.

"Teaching" being the key word in your post.

It took the team 10 minutes between innings to get to their places and get ready for the new team to bat.

There was nothing being taught here. I blame it on the parents. You could tell 90 percent of the kids have never had a baseball in their hand...once again.. parents fault.

I will also admit i am a white trash racist.. I despise them with a passion. And from looking around the crowd in the stands.. thats all i saw.

I can just picture the enviroments some of the little kids live in and how they are raised.

When a 4-6 year old child cannot comprend when the coach says..."get out there and get to your places" there is a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!

v

golden13
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:20:00 AM
We do T-Ball for the 4-5 year olds. We use it as more of a learning tool until they go to coach pitch at 6. I have been coaching for several years now, and it is a shame the lack of effort the parents put in. I am now coaching 9-10 year olds. We still have kids that cannot throw or hit. We work with them at practices and offer extra practice help, but the kids and the parents have to work on it at home also. As for the parents helping, we have a few that help and the rest of them I have not seen all season. I don't even know who some of the parents are because they use it as a babysitting service. If that is the case and I can tell that the player is not trying or practicing at home, they sit (at least as much as the rules allow). Myself and a few others are the ones running the fundraisers, car show, carnival, and everything else. Then they complain about the conditions of the field, etc. I am ready to smack a few of them.
bassdude
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:29:00 AM
At 6 your kid should be in machine or coach pitched. He is too old for tball - move him up or he will lose interest fast.

vfrtwice
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:37:00 AM
agreed...he is my step son... whole other thread there 🙂 haaaaa
madspackler
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:59:00 AM
Hang in there V:

When we first started the Tball days, I thought the games would never end and the basepaths were nothing but a Merry-go-round. By the end of the season, the players were fielding the ball and making plays for outs.

Our league regs were that you batted once around the batting order or three outs, whichever came first. By the end of the season, were were out of most innings after five or six batters.

If you can not get outside with your children, at least watch the sport on television together and explain the fine points of the game. The more children understand about the game, the better the player they will become.

Eric

zoinks
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:11:00 AM
Around here:

T-ball is K-1st grade

Machine pitch is 2nd-3rd grade

Coach pitch is 4th-5th grade

For t-ball,

Score is kept, but doesn't really matter

Everyone is in the tourney and everyone gets a trophy.

This year (t-ball, second year) the two coaches are female. You should have seen the look on everyone's face when I yelled (maybe a little to loudly) to my son

during the first game "Quit throwing like a COACH!". Well, it was true, he never threw like that last year.

He was using a pitching machine at home before he started playing t-ball, and he still does, or we pitch to him. No tee at home (unless he's golfing).

Soccer around here is so competitive people start sending their kids to soccer camp when they are 3.

vfrtwice
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:36:00 AM
LOL..I asked him at lunch why he was lollypoping the ball everywhere or even rolling it.. he said he didnt want to hurt anyone. it was kind of cute.

v