Mattie B
Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:24:48 PM
Up until a few years ago I didn't even know what gout was other than that Adam Sandler song.....

"Lunch lady Land"

So since heart surgery I have been on many meds. Well my first bout with gout almost brought me to tears. Since I've changed some meds and rarely have issues.

Well today I read about Tart Cherries working wonders to prevent gout. I just returned from the grocery with juice and canned fruit

Anybody else tried this?

tonygraz
Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:39:18 PM
My stepson has gout attacks and he used the cherries. Last time we talked about it he said food preservatives seem to be causing his problems. I've heard that drinking coffee and orange juice (not mixed together) will also alleviate gout.
Mrs.Tank
Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:53:04 PM
You can also look for cranberry extract capsules in the vitamin and supplement section at the store. Add some into your daily intake. It can help prevent gout.
Mattie B
Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:58:13 PM
Thanks yall.

Anything is better than the meds I was prescribed.

frankj1
Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:04:51 PM

Up until a few years ago I didn't even know what gout was other than that Adam Sandler song.....

"Lunch lady Land"

So since heart surgery I have been on many meds. Well my first bout with gout almost brought me to tears. Since I've changed some meds and rarely have issues.

Well today I read about Tart Cherries working wonders to prevent gout. I just returned from the grocery with juice and canned fruit

Anybody else tried this?

Mattie B wrote:

Mattie-I'll get to the tart cherries in a minute...

I used to have gout outbreaks in my left big toe a few times a year. Couldn't tolerate even the bedsheet touching it, never mind trying to put on socks or shoes. Took little purple pills (colcrys) the doc prescribed until stomach became upset, that would be the end.

Years later, went on BP pills, the kind that are also diuretics, and immediately my elbow and ankle swelled up, angry painful red, warm to the touch...GOUT of the worst kind. Doctor explained that normal people have 6.0 reading of uric acid, mine was nearly 8.5. He said the percentage of uric acid went up because the diuretics eliminated water from my body but left the acid behind, obviously changing the percentages. And it's the uric acid that goes to the joint and crystallizes, causing that unreal pain. It is an athritis condition.

Instead of simply prescribing allipurinole, he had me see a rheumatoid specialist. This guy said my new goal needed to be under 5.0 because I was one of the genetically wired people who's bodies do not eliminate uric acid efficiently. He also said no one could follow a diet that would prevent gout and survive.

He started me on daily amounts of x amount of allipurinol and x amount of colchrys, monitored my acid levels, after nearly a year stopped the colchrys because I had gone below 5.0. Four years later I take one allipurinol pill a day and have had no attacks in that time at all. Plus he said I can eat/drink anything I want, but warned that if i go to an all-u-can-eat shrimp bar and have 40 shrimp, suffer an episode, then I would be an azzhole!

You also need to know that taking the little pill to stop attacks are only treating the symptoms when they become obvious. One must permanently lower the acid to stop the continuous damage being waged by the crystals, even when no pain exists, or face a future of seriously damaged joints.

OK, the tart cherry stuff. I have used the stuff here and there, it does help with inflammation related to gout, but the real stuff is a concentrate specifically from some part of Michigan (northern Michigan?) with a name like Monomoy...i hate to do it but will google it. It could help but will not cure the cause...high % of uric acid.

Hope this helps, so many people stubbornly refuse to accept the daily lifetime pill, preferring to just treat outbreaks, but risking long term damage.

frankj1
Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:13:52 PM
stuff is Montmorency, comes from Michigan.

With all due respect to those who have dietary tips, all they are doing is dulling or maybe even eliminating pain. But the damage continues silently if the acid level is not permanently lowered. Unfortunately with gout, no pain does not equal being well. And diet is not the cause, your system's inability to rid itself of enough uric acid is the issue.

I have had no side effects (other than I am handsomer and smarter than before) nor have any of my friends who have also seen this specialist.

victor809
Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:22:35 PM
All you aristocrats with your fancy diseases.
JadeRose
Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:47:26 PM
Must be all the queer ginger beer he drinks
frankj1
Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:53:31 PM

All you aristocrats with your fancy diseases.

victor809 wrote:

I know. I look like that fat king with gout sitting on his throne with a turkey leg in one hand and an i-don't -wanna-know in his other hand.

It's good to be King!

KingoftheCove
Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:38:35 PM

I know. I look like that fat king with gout sitting on his throne with a turkey leg in one hand and an i-don't -wanna-know in his other hand.

It's good to be King!

frankj1 wrote:

hey!

WTF!

[-x

frankj1
Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:45:55 PM

hey!

WTF!

[-x

KingoftheCove wrote:

Sorry KoC, didn't know you were fat.

so what is that in your other hand?

KingoftheCove
Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:50:26 PM

Sorry KoC, didn't know you were fat.

so what is that in your other hand?

frankj1 wrote:

well, I did gain 10lbs this past year dang it!

#-o

frankj1
Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:55:49 PM
that would be like losing weight for most here.

any gout?

KingoftheCove
Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:03:03 PM

that would be like losing weight for most here.

any gout?

frankj1 wrote:

Thankfully, no.

But now I have to lose 20lbs, instead of 10.

Whistlebritches
Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:03:13 PM
Mattie

Not sure if all cherries work but I swear by Swanson Vitamins HiActives Tart Cherry.I take 5 capsules a day ........that usually works.If I feel it coming on I'll double dose and drink a bottle of tart cherry juice,can't remember the brand but it's an organic not from concentrate,really good stuff.Someone mentioned orange juice........stay away from it,the purines in OJ are as bad as eating a double plate of shellfish.However tea and coffee are good.Most of the veggies high in purines do not effect me.....even shellfish in small doses doesn't bother me.My Kryptonite seems to be high fructose corn syrup........this crap in all but small doses will light up my gout like the Griswalds on Christmas Eve.I stay away from all soda except for an occasional diet and drink lots of tea and coffee.

swansonvitamins.com is yo friend

frankj1
Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:20:53 PM

Mattie

Not sure if all cherries work but I swear by Swanson Vitamins HiActives Tart Cherry.I take 5 capsules a day ........that usually works.If I feel it coming on I'll double dose and drink a bottle of tart cherry juice,can't remember the brand but it's an organic not from concentrate,really good stuff.Someone mentioned orange juice........stay away from it,the purines in OJ are as bad as eating a double plate of shellfish.However tea and coffee are good.Most of the veggies high in purines do not effect me.....even shellfish in small doses doesn't bother me.My Kryptonite seems to be high fructose corn syrup........this crap in all but small doses will light up my gout like the Griswalds on Christmas Eve.I stay away from all soda except for an occasional diet and drink lots of tea and coffee.

swansonvitamins.com is yo friend

Whistlebritches wrote:

Ron, I used to manage the painful episodes too. But now I know that I have this destructive inflammation going on in my body, even when it doesn't hurt, if the acid level is higher than my system can eliminate.

There are dozens of medical, vitamin, and food/drink concoctions that might prevent or lessen the pain, as you said you double up when you get an inkling an episode is near, but none of them cure the problem and the damage continues, just no pain.

Like treating the itch but not the measles.

Whistlebritches
Friday, September 11, 2015 7:42:13 PM

Ron, I used to manage the painful episodes too. But now I know that I have this destructive inflammation going on in my body, even when it doesn't hurt, if the acid level is higher than my system can eliminate.

There are dozens of medical, vitamin, and food/drink concoctions that might prevent or lessen the pain, as you said you double up when you get an inkling an episode is near, but none of them cure the problem and the damage continues, just no pain.

Like treating the itch but not the measles.

frankj1 wrote:

As long as I take my tart cherry my Uric acid level usually stays below 5.I do have weak moments and suck down a few beers ..........nothing on the market can cure that stupidity.

frankj1
Friday, September 11, 2015 7:54:25 PM

As long as I take my tart cherry my Uric acid level usually stays below 5.I do have weak moments and suck down a few beers ..........nothing on the market can cure that stupidity.

Whistlebritches wrote:

glad to hear you aren't only dealing with outbreaks.

man, it is an ungodly pain!

Mattie B
Friday, September 11, 2015 9:43:58 PM
Thanks for the help guys.

And frank you are so right....it is unGodly pain!!!

I'm pounding the tart cherry juice and eating tart cherries. Last night was brutal and today it's just slightly sore. So something must be working.

bs_kwaj
Saturday, September 12, 2015 3:29:18 AM
Gout. Colchicine is the magic stuff. But, it may no longer be available. It's Cholcrys or some such now... so they can charge you more.

Oh, and the first thing that you MUST do when you realize you have gout... get rid of all your hack saws!!!

#-o