bsadler
10 years ago
Hey guys I need to add some organization to my humidor. I would like to do it with cedar trays.

I have found some online that are around 12 x 7 (expensive)

I would like to find some that are smaller 4 x 12, 4 x 6, 6 x 6, 4 x 10
Or much bigger around 12 x 20

Anyone know an affordable place to find something like this?
cigarlover22
10 years ago
What about buying the cedar and making them yourself?
cigarlover22
10 years ago
That's what I'm going to do when I get home for my coolidor. I looked a couple places and they are to expensive to buy 1 at a time.
Burner02
10 years ago
http://wineadors.com . I was happy with the quality but I have heard others that were not. Also you will have a couple of months turn around on trays.

Hope this helps.
bsadler
10 years ago
Thought about making them but, I have to many projects on my plate at the moment. (Getting ready to start a six month training that will take up any spare time I have)

Burner I will give that sight a look if I cant find something else.


cacman
10 years ago
Empty boxes from your B&M.
Breakout3030
10 years ago
I may get slammed for this but I have done a lot of research on it to be sure that I'm not going to mess up my cigars but I think I have found an economical solution to Spanish Cedar. Hear me out guys...

There is a product used for underlayment called Luan. It is made mostly of the mahogany family of wood (from Guam and other Vietnam). It is thin, has no noticeable odor, similar grain pattern, holds up to higher humidity levels just as well as Spanish cedar. This is my thought. If I have all my cigars in Spanish cedar boxes already and all I'm really looking for is the look of Spanish cedar for shelves, RH maintenance, and organization in my coolidor then this may be a viable option.

I haven't pulled the trigger yet and would surely test it on a smaller scale with cigars I could afford to lose if my theory is wrong.

What do you guys think? Before you crucify me take a look at the properties of Luan and see what you think. Could be an option for helping organize and not break the bank.
jespear
10 years ago

I may get slammed for this but I have done a lot of research on it to be sure that I'm not going to mess up my cigars but I think I have found an economical solution to Spanish Cedar. Hear me out guys...

There is a product used for underlayment called Luan. It is made mostly of the mahogany family of wood (from Guam and other Vietnam). It is thin, has no noticeable odor, similar grain pattern, holds up to higher humidity levels just as well as Spanish cedar. This is my thought. If I have all my cigars in Spanish cedar boxes already and all I'm really looking for is the look of Spanish cedar for shelves, RH maintenance, and organization in my coolidor then this may be a viable option.

I haven't pulled the trigger yet and would surely test it on a smaller scale with cigars I could afford to lose if my theory is wrong.

What do you guys think? Before you crucify me take a look at the properties of Luan and see what you think. Could be an option for helping organize and not break the bank.

Breakout3030 wrote:




Not slamming you . . . just adding a thought.
I may be wrong, but isn't part of the spanish cedar quality the "slight cedar nuance" that your cigars get from being stored in it ?
The economical price of the Luan that you speak of may be enough to sway some who are not concerned about said "spanish cedar nuances".

Like I said . . . just a thought.

jes
cacman
10 years ago

… all I'm really looking for is the look of Spanish cedar for shelves, RH maintenance, and organization in my coolidor then this may be a viable option.

Breakout3030 wrote:


I used large Rocky Patel Edge 50ct crates for shelves and to line the interior door of my cooler.
sd72
10 years ago
Luan is just a veneer. It's overlaid and usually rf glued to a substrate.

Finding empty boxes or using your old boxes is prolly gonna be a better route.
Breakout3030
10 years ago

Not slamming you . . . just adding a thought.
I may be wrong, but isn't part of the spanish cedar quality the "slight cedar nuance" that your cigars get from being stored in it ?
The economical price of the Luan that you speak of may be enough to sway some who are not concerned about said "spanish cedar nuances".

Like I said . . . just a thought.

jes

jespear wrote:



jespear, I understand what you are saying. That Spanish cedar of the cigars boxes themselves inside the coolidor would hopefully continue to provide those nuances. Admittedly, loose cigars and singles wouldn't be in direct contact with Spanish cedar but that's what old boxes are for. I was really thinking of using the Luan to just build the shelves first and then try trays later.
TMCTLT
10 years ago

Luan is just a veneer. It's overlaid and usually rf glued to a substrate.

Finding empty boxes or using your old boxes is prolly gonna be a better route.

sd72 wrote:




^^ All true.


For more on WHY Spanish Cedar and it's origin and other uses:
and for obvious reasons I can't make mention of where I copied this info ( comp. ref. )

Spanish Cedar is not Cedar and it’s not from Spain, it’s a Mahogany that has good humidor friendly aspects about it such as resistance to rot and the fact that it holds humidity well. Also worth noting that tobacco beetles are not fond of that specific wood hence make it the ideal choice for Humidors.

The technical term for Spanish Cedar is actually Cedrela odorata which is a commercially important tree, what we discovered is that though Humidor Construction is of course one of the top uses, it’s also used for beekeeping (the wooden boxes where the bees are stored), some electric guitars and is even the traditional wood for the neck of flamenco and classical guitars.

Cedrela odorata is a mahogany tree of the New World tropics found throughout the tropical zones of North and South America. In other words it does not come from Spain and it’s a mahogany. There is very little information on why this specific tree is called “Spanish Cedar”. So we decided to do some digging, after some time researching via Google, Wikipedia and other sources, we then turned back to Reddit and elaborated on the thread to include why this wood is called Spanish Cedar when it’s not from Spain nor is it a Cedar.

The fact is that no one that we interviewed knows. There is very little information on why the Mahogany is called a Cedar and the North and South American Tree is called Spanish.

If you know why it’s named this, please let us know.
Thunder.Gerbil
10 years ago

Not slamming you . . . just adding a thought.
I may be wrong, but isn't part of the spanish cedar quality the "slight cedar nuance" that your cigars get from being stored in it ?
The economical price of the Luan that you speak of may be enough to sway some who are not concerned about said "spanish cedar nuances".

Like I said . . . just a thought.

jes

jespear wrote:




IIRC, the original reason for spanish cedar was actually that mahogany was too expensive. The aroma of the lower cost SC has since become something that is thourgouly intertwined with and expected of cigar storage.

If the lack of aroma is the only hang up on luan, I wouldn't worry about it. If it's a manufactured product, I'd be more interested in knowing what the binders are and what chemicals are use to process it.
tamapatom
10 years ago
If you are making a walk in closet humidor, Luan sounds OK for walls or ceiling. For shelves I would stick with spanish cedar or old cigar boxes.
DrafterX
10 years ago

^^ All true.


For more on WHY Spanish Cedar and it's origin and other uses:
and for obvious reasons I can't make mention of where I copied this info ( comp. ref. )

Spanish Cedar is not Cedar and it’s not from Spain, it’s a Mahogany that has good humidor friendly aspects about it such as resistance to rot and the fact that it holds humidity well. Also worth noting that tobacco beetles are not fond of that specific wood hence make it the ideal choice for Humidors.

The technical term for Spanish Cedar is actually Cedrela odorata which is a commercially important tree, what we discovered is that though Humidor Construction is of course one of the top uses, it’s also used for beekeeping (the wooden boxes where the bees are stored), some electric guitars and is even the traditional wood for the neck of flamenco and classical guitars.

Cedrela odorata is a mahogany tree of the New World tropics found throughout the tropical zones of North and South America. In other words it does not come from Spain and it’s a mahogany. There is very little information on why this specific tree is called “Spanish Cedar”. So we decided to do some digging, after some time researching via Google, Wikipedia and other sources, we then turned back to Reddit and elaborated on the thread to include why this wood is called Spanish Cedar when it’s not from Spain nor is it a Cedar.

The fact is that no one that we interviewed knows. There is very little information on why the Mahogany is called a Cedar and the North and South American Tree is called Spanish.

If you know why it’s named this, please let us know.

TMCTLT wrote:




It was prolly that Bassard Columbus.. 😠
sd72
10 years ago
Dude. He found America, and all the list Indians that were here. Quit cutting on our founding Italian.
DrafterX
10 years ago
America wasn't lost... 🤐
cameroon
10 years ago

^^ All true.


For more on WHY Spanish Cedar and it's origin and other uses:
and for obvious reasons I can't make mention of where I copied this info ( comp. ref. )

Spanish Cedar is not Cedar and it’s not from Spain, it’s a Mahogany that has good humidor friendly aspects about it such as resistance to rot and the fact that it holds humidity well. Also worth noting that tobacco beetles are not fond of that specific wood hence make it the ideal choice for Humidors.

The technical term for Spanish Cedar is actually Cedrela odorata which is a commercially important tree, what we discovered is that though Humidor Construction is of course one of the top uses, it’s also used for beekeeping (the wooden boxes where the bees are stored), some electric guitars and is even the traditional wood for the neck of flamenco and classical guitars.

Cedrela odorata is a mahogany tree of the New World tropics found throughout the tropical zones of North and South America. In other words it does not come from Spain and it’s a mahogany. There is very little information on why this specific tree is called “Spanish Cedar”. So we decided to do some digging, after some time researching via Google, Wikipedia and other sources, we then turned back to Reddit and elaborated on the thread to include why this wood is called Spanish Cedar when it’s not from Spain nor is it a Cedar.

The fact is that no one that we interviewed knows. There is very little information on why the Mahogany is called a Cedar and the North and South American Tree is called Spanish.

If you know why it’s named this, please let us know.

TMCTLT wrote:




Back in the old, old days, Spain made a lot of good cigars, even far beyond Cuba at that time. Its cigars would be packed in boxes from that particular tree. After a long period of time, a box of "Spanish cee-gar" became "Spanish cedar."
KingoftheCove
10 years ago

Empty boxes from your B&M.

cacman wrote:


^this is what I did
And I also use 4 larger ventilated plastic trays(for singles) that just happened to fit/stack perfectly in my cooler........they hold 40 to 50 cigars each, depending on the vitola
sd72
10 years ago
Of course America was lost. How else were Indians (India), on America?
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