tailgater
Monday, April 4, 2016 2:27:04 PM
Curious if anyone is using 3D printers at home or for work.

Or do you know anyone using them for anything special?

I'd be very interested in hearing what's out there.

🇨🇮

victor809
Monday, April 4, 2016 2:54:06 PM
A buddy of mine does the whole "maker" thing and has had a 3d printer for a while now. Materials still aren't the best, so stress has to be taken into account for most things you 3d print, but he's had some real interesting successes.

gummy jones
Monday, April 4, 2016 3:05:05 PM
im using one to make guns for eric holder to sell to the cartels

we split the profits 60-40

ZRX1200
Monday, April 4, 2016 3:39:49 PM
Pretty sure Holder wants TRACEABLE guns to further the agenda.
Gene363
Monday, April 4, 2016 4:29:34 PM
Kinda like digital cameras a few years ago, a new improved model is out every other day. Some are simple prototype makers, others are being used for limited production runs. I recently bought a filler sleeve for a H&K P30sk pistol to use full size magazines in the compact pistol. You can see a pattern in the plastic, but so far it's working perfectly.

I rent time on a machine or go to one of those maker shipops Victo mentioned. There are 3D metal printers, going to be interesting when they start printing high grade collector coins.

tailgater
Monday, April 4, 2016 8:52:44 PM
My company makes printer filament for the FFF (Fused filament fabrication) which is the generic term for Stratesys' FDM (fused deposition modeling).

Basically, you melt weed wacker yarn onto a plate and shape it into whatever you want.

Except a lot of filament materials suck.

If anybody has specific needs, let me know.

Victor, PM me if your friend wants to try new materials.

This is all plastic materials. No metals and no funky fillers for the time being.

Geek mode: Off.

tailgater
Monday, April 4, 2016 8:53:52 PM
Gene,

That coin comment is interesting.

I wonder how it will be handled.

Gene363
Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:52:39 AM

Gene,

That coin comment is interesting.

I wonder how it will be handled.

tailgater wrote:

I suppose patina and real surface wear might be the most difficult to duplicate. Grading and authentication will be more difficult, possibly requiring the use of a microscope. The exact density and alloy would be hard to duplicate too, but I can conceive recycling worn or common coins of the correct alloy/age into rare and expensive coins. Just like fake historic documents are made with old paper from the same time period.

Duplication of metals produced before the first atomic bomb, i.e., pre 1945, would be very difficult using contemporary materials as they contain minute amounts of isotopes generated in nuclear explosions not present before 1945. I know a lab that built super sensitive instruments for measuring radiation that had to be shielded with thick armor plate produced before 1945 to avoid those isotopes.

It will be figured out, but not before some fakes get into the wild. Remember the first color scans of paper money printed on high end printers caused the government to radically change paper money to make it more difficult to duplicate. It's just a damn shame criminals don't put that effort to legitimate businesses.

Brewha
Saturday, April 9, 2016 11:49:15 AM
From what I've seen with 3D printers, they all have limits to the physical resolution and cannot produce a smooth polished surface - same limits as a dot matrix printer. I would be really impressed if the printer could compete with detail and relief of a die stuck coin to the naked eye. But it would be cool....
Gene363
Saturday, April 9, 2016 12:06:19 PM

From what I've seen with 3D printers, they all have limits to the physical resolution and cannot produce a smooth polished surface - same limits as a dot matrix printer. I would be really impressed if the printer could compete with detail and relief of a die stuck coin to the naked eye. But it would be cool....

Brewha wrote:

True, but it will come, just like camera and printer resolution has gotten better over the years.

edin508
Saturday, April 9, 2016 10:41:48 PM
How strong is this material Tailgater? I don't have a printer, yet, gotta make room for one now that they are affordable. But I deal with a bunch of people who make little parts for me and my hobby (racing drones). They put most of the print files on, thing universe.

Any good hook up's on printers with a decent size heated bed?

They make things like this.

http://www.team-blacksheep.com/products/product:938 

Brewha
Saturday, April 9, 2016 11:12:29 PM

True, but it will come, just like camera and printer resolution has gotten better over the years.

Gene363 wrote:

I reckon that mater transposition will be worked at out at the quantum level some day. But that's a bit different from 3D printing. In order to duplicate a coin properly, you would have to match the formed metallic structure. Printing a dendroid is, well, rather detailed. Still, people have a long history of doing impossible things.

Molecular recombination and projection - makes breaking the light barrier seem simple.

tailgater
Sunday, April 10, 2016 11:41:20 AM

How strong is this material Tailgater? I don't have a printer, yet, gotta make room for one now that they are affordable. But I deal with a bunch of people who make little parts for me and my hobby (racing drones). They put most of the print files on, thing universe.

Any good hook up's on printers with a decent size heated bed?

They make things like this.

http://www.team-blacksheep.com/products/product:938 

edin508 wrote:

Ed,

The material strength is only half the equation.

The industry standard PLA prints well, but is very brittle.

Other materials like ABS are strong, but a 3D Printed part is limited by layer to layer bonding, as well as other factors too boring to delve into here.

The bumper might do well with a nylon, and we've got some grades that might do the trick. Let me take a look and I'll let you know.

frankj1
Sunday, April 10, 2016 12:28:58 PM

Ed,

The material strength is only half the equation.

The industry standard PLA prints well, but is very brittle.

Other materials like ABS are strong, but a 3D Printed part is limited by layer to layer bonding, as well as other factors too boring to delve into here.

The bumper might do well with a nylon, and we've got some grades that might do the trick. Let me take a look and I'll let you know.

tailgater wrote:

bring some to the Walpole Sportsmen's Club!

edin508
Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:38:26 PM
Lets go shooting!
edin508
Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:42:18 PM

Ed,

The material strength is only half the equation.

The industry standard PLA prints well, but is very brittle.

Other materials like ABS are strong, but a 3D Printed part is limited by layer to layer bonding, as well as other factors too boring to delve into here.

The bumper might do well with a nylon, and we've got some grades that might do the trick. Let me take a look and I'll let you know.

tailgater wrote:

Thanks! Recommend me a good printer too. 🇨🇮

frankj1
Sunday, April 10, 2016 8:10:33 PM

Lets go shooting!

edin508 wrote:

we are in, don't worry.

edin508
Sunday, April 10, 2016 8:33:53 PM

we are in, don't worry.

frankj1 wrote:

I wont. And I will bring you a cigar, BECAUSE FRANK DOESN'T HAVE ANY CIGARS.

frankj1
Sunday, April 10, 2016 8:48:37 PM
I thought we were friends!

Just for that, I'm paying for dinner.

edin508
Monday, April 11, 2016 5:16:02 PM

I thought we were friends!

Just for that, I'm paying for dinner.

frankj1 wrote:

Ha! You payed last time.

And what are friends for? Busting balls I would say.