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Stinkdyr
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

10 years ago

Riddle me this, fatmen....now that Cuba is becoming on-limits, and more smokers will buy cc's since they can....will this lead us to cheaper prices on stix from other places due to decreased demand? Or will this lead to a second cigar boom that will make 1995 pale in comparison, since more folks will discover cigars as a pleasant experience from their curiosity exposure to cc?

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cameroon
Aficionado

10 years ago

Cello on, or cello off?

Mandoman
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

I believe prices will rise for Cuban cigars because the demand will skyrocket. This will lead to a decrease in quality, after all there is a finite amount of tobacco the the manufacturers will want to stretch as far as possible. After awhile, couple of years maybe, he novelty will have worn off and the lower quality will had an effect on the market. Prices and quality will stabilize, probably (my guess, anyway) about where they are now.

KingoftheCove
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

Mandoman wrote:

+1
I don't buy CCs, so IDGAF about what happens to their business.
My guess is, they will try their best to meet demand, to make as much $$ as possible.
There are several scenarios in which they could "ramp up" production to meet this anticipated huge increase in demand, none of which will will bring smiles to the faces of long time CC buyers.

I'm more interested in how the Cuban situation, and pending US tobacco legislation, will impact the non CC market.
Many different scenarios here as well, thus difficult to predict.
Could be a great time to buy certain brands, while others become very expensive. Everything from crazy blow-out deals to stupid high prices and shortages.

Edited by user 10 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Whistlebritches
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

My Cubans are already sleeping in my humidor.If it causes prices to fall and quality to peak on my favorite Nicaraguan and Dominicans..............WINNING

deadeyedick
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

Don't expect to see any Cubans on your local B&M shelf any time soon.

Most anyone in the US who smokes more than an occasional cigar and wants Cubans can get them now so I doubt the demand would exactly skyrocket if the ban was lifted.

Buckwheat
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

+1
I'm more interested in how the Cuban situation, and pending US tobacco legislation, will impact the non CC market.
Many different scenarios here as well, thus difficult to predict.
Could be a great time to buy certain brands, while others become very expensive. Everything from crazy blow-out deals to stupid high prices and shortages.

KingoftheCove wrote:

If the US passed the draconian anti-tobacco legislation that they are thinking about: I think you will see the rise of a gray market where legal tobacco products will be purchased abroad and imported in to circumvent any price increased caused by the stupid legislation. All you have to do is look at the difference in cost for a pack of smokes in Kentucky, North Carolina, etc.. vs. New York to see that there are people who import cigs from tobacco friendly states and resell them in places with draconian tobacco taxes and laws. 🌫

99cobra2881
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

deadeyedick wrote:

I fully think you under estimate the stupidity of the average uninformed American consumer and the mystique behind Cuban cigars.

Ive had people that don't smoke cigars often try telling me "Cuban rejects" cigars were real Cubans. I could only reply with "wow that's cool."

The biggest hurdle will be the new fda regs because none of the Cuban cigars were sold here prior to 2007.

cacman
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

deadeyedick wrote:

And the current attack and new rules by the FDA will only further add to the restrictions against CC's being available at your local B&M.

Does anyone honestly expect the Cuban marcas to jump the the FDA's hoops just so they can distribute a small quantity of their product in the U.S.?

Edited by user 10 years ago | Reason: Not specified

rfenst
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

#10

deadeyedick wrote:

+1
It will also be a while for the non-Cuban manufacturers and Habanos to sort out legal trademark issues. (Think Montecristo RyJ and H. Upmann- all of which have cc and non cc cigars for sale.)

dstieger
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

#11

I just wish they'd hurry up so NY Customs will release a package

shaun341
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

#12

I know my last purchase of cubans the import slip taped to the package said 50 cigar valued at $50.01 and it went through customs normal time it has been taking.