rfenst
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10 years ago
After last night's debacle and his refusal to endorse trump, what do you think?


I don't think not endorsing him matters based on the insults Trump hurled at Cruz' father and wife during the primaries.
dstieger
10 years ago
http://www.cigarbid.com/Forum/c/postmessage/?t=650883&f=7&q=4146896 

Ted Cruz was Ted Cruz and a whole lot of people are outraged. Huh?

I've always felt Cruz in the Senate was neglecting his obligation to work with the rest of Congress to improve the country. Most of the time I applaud someone who is steadfast in application of their principles. To me, though, Cruz was obstructionist, not adding value...even the idea of changing the dialog was unhelpful 99% of the time.

On the other hand, I felt that he delivered a speech from his heart and convictions that was solid from start to finish. I cannot believe that I was the only Republican in the country that expected exactly what was delivered. If they didn't want that, they shouldn't have given him the podium. The party is a hot fn mess. The fact that Preibus not only has a job, but is still at the head is unbelievable. The GOP thinks they want everything that Cruz wants, but are upset when Cruz says it....LOL. I don't like Cruz much, but I am convinced that he's one of very few top Republicans that can articulate an actual vision or idea and believe what he says....forget whether or not you agree with him

dstieger wrote:

ZRX1200
10 years ago
If you're not going to endorse, you shouldn't accept the invite.

Cruz has isues I have problems with, but he's a more liberty minded guy than most in the Senate.
MACS
10 years ago

After last night's debacle and his refusal to endorse trump, what do you think?


I don't think not endorsing him matters based on the insults Trump hurled at Cruz' father and wife during the primaries.

rfenst wrote:



My thoughts as well. You insult my family and want me to play nice? I don't think so... however, I wouldn't have even showed up at the convention, let alone speak at the podium. The party made its choice and it wasn't Cruz.
Stinkdyr
10 years ago
Hillary will accept you all as her subjects for the next 8 years, never fear.

After all, the $$ she steals from you is as good as any.

🍺
Speyside
10 years ago
I have disliked Cruz for a long time. I think his speach was out of place, but Trump knew the content and let him go on anyway. This seems to be more gamesmanship on Trump's part. I do think his indirect jabs at Trump were rather classless, but not suprising.
teedubbya
10 years ago
I'm torn on this one because I think Cruz is satan. That said its not as if he trashed Trump he simply didn't endorse him. And it's the RNC convention not the TNC convention. I know tradition and blah blah blah but trump is hardly traditional.

It would be politically correct for Cruz to endorse so I understand the trump folks outrage given their value of political correctness.

Meh maybe I've developed a soft spot for ol Ted for agreeing with me about trump even though I feel the same way about him.

On a related note why would trump even want an endorsement from a habitual liar who's father killed JFK and was dumb enough to marry an ugly chick instead of an imported beauty?
ZRX1200
10 years ago
Because the die hard Glenn Beck fans do what they're told.
MACS
10 years ago

Because the die hard Glenn Beck fans do what they're told.

ZRX1200 wrote:



Beck endorsed Cruz? I thought he was a Rubio guy?
teedubbya
10 years ago
I heard Beck speaks German
ZRX1200
10 years ago
No MACS.

Beck is a die hard Cruz guy and a NEVER Trump guy as well.
crgcpro
10 years ago
Ted's just butt hurt about being labeled Lying Ted for the rest of his life!
DrafterX
10 years ago

After last night's debacle and his refusal to endorse trump, what do you think?


I don't think not endorsing him matters based on the insults Trump hurled at Cruz' father and wife during the primaries.

rfenst wrote:




Ted didn't exactly just turn the other cheek when that went down... He's also lucky Carson isn't talking chit about him... 😟
teedubbya
10 years ago
I'm torn on this one because I think Cruz is satan. That said its not as if he trashed Trump he simply didn't endorse him. And it's the RNC convention not the TNC convention. I know tradition and blah blah blah but trump is hardly traditional.

It would be politically correct for Cruz to endorse so I understand the trump folks outrage given their value of political correctness.

Meh maybe I've developed a soft spot for ol Ted for agreeing with me about trump even though I feel the same way about him.

On a related note why would trump even want an endorsement from a habitual liar who's father killed JFK and was dumb enough to marry an ugly chick instead of an imported beauty?
DrafterX
10 years ago
Prolly cause he promised to.. Was it the first debate where they all took an oath to support the winning candidate..?? 🤔
DrafterX
10 years ago
So basically Lying Ted lied again... 😟
teedubbya
10 years ago
Remember Trump walking it back if he was "treated unfairly" as defined by Trump. He was going to do the same thing. His outrage is duly noted.
DrafterX
10 years ago
I'm not defending the Trump... he's far from innocent too... but he won and the others said they'd worship the winner and stuff... 😟
ZRX1200
10 years ago
Cruz could have said he was hono ring the pledge they all signed, and was supporting the candidate. He didn't have to say Trump's name, or even say the word "endorse".

I don't have a problem with his decision, but the manner in which he executed it showed a lack of class I would like to see in a potential POTUS. But I guess that's what we get from a guy who wasn't eligible to rub in the first place.
rfenst
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10 years ago

So basically Lying Ted lied again... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



He supposedly told Trump 3 days beforethat he would not endorse him from the podium during the speech.
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