got it
thanks

frankj1 wrote:

Yeah I do not like unsportsmanlike conduct but just helmet clash now even if not intentional can be considered targeting. I had a good friend of mine that his career was ended by targeting. The player blindsided from the right, dove and shoulder blocked/clipped his knee from the side, snapped it like a toothpick... It will make your butthole pucker to see a man's leg flopping sideways at the knee. Lee Williams was his name. The boy was pro material but chit happens I guess.

Ewok126 wrote:

That doesn't fit the definition.. 😟

DrafterX wrote:

what does not fit the definition?
My Buddies knee? Or the helmets?

For lee's knee: A player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle. The guy took aim at the knee in such a way that it was obvious that he was meaning to take lee out of the game buy destroying his knee, and he succeeded not only out of the game but out for life.

The helmets: The NCAA has issued two new interpretations to guide how officials should identify targeting fouls, one of which is meant to clarify the exact location of the "crown" -- the part of the helmet which must be used to incur such a targeting penalty.... This is now from the ridge of the facemask up, forehead hit, top of the head hit, etc. Basicly if the head is used in any way from the faceguard up it's considered targeting. Intentional or not is where the real issue comes in I think. Back when I played it was taught to tuck the head and use it now according to the BS rules big big no no. That is what I have been seeing. It would be one thing if it was a forearm or elbow but this is just crazy.

Ewok126 wrote:

I am 39 and they didn't teach that way here when I played. Tuck your head is a good way to miss a lot of tackles. For as long as I can remember it was put your face on the ball, wrap up and drive through the tackle to the ground. The highlight big hits on ESPN is what changed the generations view on how to tackle and somewhere along the way the fundamentals were lost. Watch the games today and tell me how many times you see a defender put his shoulder down and hit the player without wrapping up, then tell me how many missed tackles happened because of this lack of fundamentals.

Either way the helmet should not be used as a weapon out there but there is a line that needs to be drawn on what is excessive officiating anymore.

shaun341 wrote:

Right Right, I have almost a decade on yah, also it could just be that's how our coach taught. We was taught to torpedo through. Also and I am not sure on this because I can't remember all that well, but the thought was if face up and hit hard then greater chance of whiplash to where if chin was tucked and helmet went in head on less likely the chance of neck damage. Reminds me of all the injuries I would see in the OR with people falling at the casinos lol. People would fall forward catch the forehead on the slot machines and fracture C1 lol atleast 3 times a week. 😰

Ewok126 wrote:

I am 39 and they didn't teach that way here when I played. Tuck your head is a good way to miss a lot of tackles. For as long as I can remember it was put your face on the ball, wrap up and drive through the tackle to the ground. The highlight big hits on ESPN is what changed the generations view on how to tackle and somewhere along the way the fundamentals were lost. Watch the games today and tell me how many times you see a defender put his shoulder down and hit the player without wrapping up, then tell me how many missed tackles happened because of this lack of fundamentals.

Either way the helmet should not be used as a weapon out there but there is a line that needs to be drawn on what is excessive officiating anymore.

shaun341 wrote:

I'm 57 and I was taught head up and eyes on the ball, hit em hard and hit em low(around the waist or thighs) and wrap em up and drive through the tackle with your legs to bring them down to the ground ........usually worked pretty well. 🌫

I definitely agree with you, todays football is way over officiated#-o

RMAN4443 wrote:

that was the tackling method I was taught, might add we were told to keep our eyes on the ball carrier's belt buckle cuz runners can fake with head & shoulder and stutter steps, but the mid section always goes in the true direction.

get our shoulder on the middle and wrap up the thighs with our arms...when able to make a direct hit.

frankj1 wrote: