cacman
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8 years ago
No more bullsh*t tax!
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Buckwheat
8 years ago

No more bullsh*t tax!
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cacman wrote:



Don't worry! Don't panic! There are still many, many, many BS taxes still on the books. 🌫
opelmanta1900
8 years ago
And many more to come!
victor809
8 years ago
.... this doesn't look like a really short sighted decision to you?
TMCTLT
8 years ago

.... this doesn't look like a really short sighted decision to you?

victor809 wrote:





Of course Obammycare was a short sighted decision....just another wealth transfer of sorts.
MACS
8 years ago

.... this doesn't look like a really short sighted decision to you?

victor809 wrote:



Nope. Mandate that people purchase something they don't want to purchase (or can't afford to purchase) is unconstitutional. They wrapped that sh*t sandwich in pretty paper and called it a tax just to get away with it.

https://tinyurl.com/y9oc38on 
teedubbya
8 years ago
short or long view, for or against, ...i t was not unconstitutional. That much was settled.
teedubbya
8 years ago
By the way my take on the tax bill in general is the Indians really liked the beads and firewater they received for their lands so all is good! Except the beads in this case disappear in a few years while the land exchange is permanent, as is the forth coming explosion of the deficit like never seen before.

dilly dilly
DrafterX
8 years ago
Gloom, despair and agony on me...
Deep dark depression
Excessive misery...
:-"
Phil222
8 years ago
Why are people okay with being forced to buy auto insurance but not health insurance?
dstieger
8 years ago

Why are people okay with being forced to buy auto insurance but not health insurance?

Phil222 wrote:




Because we want the guy that hits us to have to have insurance....I could care less if he's insured when his appendix ruptures
DrafterX
8 years ago
Not everyone drives... But under Obama-drive you woulda had to pay a fine if you didn't own a car... 😟
Phil222
8 years ago

Because we want the guy that hits us to have to have insurance....I could care less if he's insured when his appendix ruptures

dstieger wrote:



You should care. You pay more for his healthcare when he goes to the hospital after his appendix ruptures. That cost is passed on to you and I. Is this not the way it works?
dstieger
8 years ago

You should care. You pay more for his healthcare when he goes to the hospital after his appendix ruptures. That cost is passed on to you and I. Is this not the way it works?

Phil222 wrote:



hope not...

I don't understand. Is the total cost of care different if he has insurance? If not, isn't my insurance lower if he isn't covered?
But, I'd bet the total cost of care for uninsured might be lower than for you and I. Insurance companies MUST be padding the middle cost layers...or they'd all be non-profits, or losing propositions. I say get rid of all health insurance...maybe then we'd finally get some actual competition...and some actual accountability for actual health care costs
dstieger
8 years ago

Not everyone drives... But under Obama-drive you woulda had to pay a fine if you didn't own a car... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



ok with me, i guess...my cost goes down...f those non-driving millennial puzzies
DrafterX
8 years ago
The way it's supposed to work is everybody being responsible... Not telling people they don't have to be because the gubment will make everybody else pay your bills for you.. 😟
Phil222
8 years ago

Is the total cost of care different if he has insurance?

dstieger wrote:



If he has insurance then he is paying for his own care, not you and I. The more people who have insurance, the lower the cost. That is how insurance works, right? I'm not trying to be a smartazz; these are legit questions.
teedubbya
8 years ago
I'm totally against the mandate but also think if you don't buy insurance during the time you are supposed to and you get a catastrophic illness you should either die or have to pay up front. I hear there are a lot of nice people in here that will help you as long as the government isn't involved.
teedubbya
8 years ago
cost pools and spreading risk are bunk and actually raise costs. eliminating them will drive prices down to where they should be. going back to the time where you could buy snake oil concoctions that could and actually did kill you is also something to strive for. No shuddup and bring me my antibiotic, I have a sore throat and a 4 hour erection.

I blame Massengill


https://www.fda.gov/aboutfda/whatwedo/history/productregulation/sulfanilamidedisaster/ 
dstieger
8 years ago

If he has insurance then he is paying for his own care, not you and I. The more people who have insurance, the lower the cost. That is how insurance works, right? I'm not trying to be a smartazz; these are legit questions.

Phil222 wrote:



I guess the comm breakdown is that while I AM trying to be a smartazz, I'm also being serious. But, I wasn't clear about cost alignment. Deliberately so. Because insurance (and BIG med) benefit...no, THRIVE because of the confusion they deliberately create.
I was mixing health care cost AND insurance cost together when I was referring to total care cost. At the most basic, naive level, you're correct. Spread the insurance risk to include people with lower risk than yourself so that your rates cost you less than the actual risk you pose to the insurance company. The mandate thing was meant to force people who are low risk into plans so that fat, old, hypertensive smoking fooks like me can pay lower rates. Doesn't matter that a healthy 22 year old with few risk factors would be better off without any health insurance and could just pay as he goes....and pay less that way. But, unfortunately, its a lot more complicated. Insurance companies aren't non-profits. Big MED has zero cost transparency...so health care costs go into an invisible sausage machine that turns out different prices for different patients, insurance companies, locations...whatever...seemingly at random. We're fucked because we accept it...and trust the insurance companies have our backs....lol...bend over, Phil...nobody's looking out for you and I...especially not Congress, Insurance, your hospital, nor phrama....pick up some lube on your way to your next doc visit
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